While resting on the left butt cheek and sitting on a beaded seat cover.It's ironic that ANCAP doesn't rate the wally behind the wheel.
Driving with one hand at 6 o'clock on corrugated roads, you know who you are![]()
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While resting on the left butt cheek and sitting on a beaded seat cover.It's ironic that ANCAP doesn't rate the wally behind the wheel.
Driving with one hand at 6 o'clock on corrugated roads, you know who you are![]()
It is very hard to regulate for the "nut behind the wheel".It's ironic that ANCAP doesn't rate the wally behind the wheel.
Driving with one hand at 6 o'clock on corrugated roads, you know who you are![]()
Dave - you may re-think that comment if you knew what some of those bikes actually cost (often exceeding an Alu-Cab lifting roof conversion).It is great that they have advanced from scooters but when i see these adults still riding bikes I almost feel like stopping and giving them some coins from my pocket.
Nah. I don't think so.Dave - you may re-think that comment if you knew what some of those bikes actually cost (often exceeding an Alu-Cab lifting roof conversion).![]()
The grey wave of virtue signalling E bike seniors hasn't hit your town yet?Call me old fashioned but men drive cars and children ride bikes.
There is no plan to test it and unlikely to be tested in the near future. However without the advanced accident avoidance tech like AWB and lane keep assist etc it can never get 5 star. And I suspect it won’t do wonderfully on the pedestrian safety stuff either so 4 is the best it could hope for and even 3 likely, assuming crash testing and occupant safety does well.
For Ineos to do that they would need to add all the babysitting electronics that most of us don't want.Well, when I see that the Wrangler only had 50% in the Driver/Adult Occupant category it makes me a little bit afraid.
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Official Jeep Wrangler safety rating
Euro NCAP safety rating of the Jeep Wrangler: detailed results, crash test pictures, videos and comments from expertswww.euroncap.com
I think that Ineos Automotive should make Global/Euro NCAP test the Grenadier.
I don’t think INEOS have anything to gain by doing that knowing that they can never achieve 5 without the automation. Would be nice if they would provide information on their own testing but I won’t be holding my breath. I have quite a bit of confidence it will be better than the WranglerWell, when I see that the Wrangler only had 50% in the Driver/Adult Occupant category it makes me a little bit afraid.
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Official Jeep Wrangler safety rating
Euro NCAP safety rating of the Jeep Wrangler: detailed results, crash test pictures, videos and comments from expertswww.euroncap.com
I think that Ineos Automotive should make Global/Euro NCAP test the Grenadier.
Afraid of what?Well, when I see that the Wrangler only had 50% in the Driver/Adult Occupant category it makes me a little bit afraid.
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Official Jeep Wrangler safety rating
Euro NCAP safety rating of the Jeep Wrangler: detailed results, crash test pictures, videos and comments from expertswww.euroncap.com
I think that Ineos Automotive should make Global/Euro NCAP test the Grenadier.
Look at how the test is executed.Well, when I see that the Wrangler only had 50% in the Driver/Adult Occupant category it makes me a little bit afraid.
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Official Jeep Wrangler safety rating
Euro NCAP safety rating of the Jeep Wrangler: detailed results, crash test pictures, videos and comments from expertswww.euroncap.com
I think that Ineos Automotive should make Global/Euro NCAP test the Grenadier.
Life in a wheelchair, dribbling.Afraid of what?
For Ineos to do that they would need to add all the babysitting electronics that most of us don't want.
Lane keep assist
Autonomous braking
radar cruise control
pedestrian detection system
blind spot monitoring
etc etc etc
YepI also don't care about electronics but the Driver/Adult Occupant protection in the Wrangler is not good.
This was my reaction. No matter how many stars it gets that will be a lot more than no stars which I think is what a classic defender would get.For a very brief period there was a few frames of a Grenadier crash test on YouTube, but it has vanished. When Ineos staff spoke, they said it was massively more crash worthy than a classic Defender, but no one expects it to be EuroNCAPed as it is a low volumn vehicle and Ineos Automotive will not sponsor the tests.
Other than that, we only have bland assurances and nothing to hang a hat on.
Ineos has put plenty of slo-mo video footage of crashing Grenadiers on line. I think everyone can get a reasonably clear picture of what the results of the crash tests were. Do we get the minutae? No, but if they were bad there's no way in Helsinki they'd show the footage in public.And another point is it will have been crash tested to obtain regulatory approval. They just won't discuss it publicly. It will also have been crash tested for validation purposes by ineos.
It's inevitable that it's going to get out eventually though.![]()
They'd be popular viewing in Valhalla thoughbut if they were bad there's no way in Helsinki they'd show the footage in public.
He was quibbling about the poor rating of the Wrangler, when we're all awaiting delivery of our Grenadiers. The Wrangler is built like a peddle-car.Life in a wheelchair, dribbling.
The thing with safety.. sometimes it's the big things, but sometimes it's all the little details. It's very hard to guess deceleration rates from a video.Ineos has put plenty of slo-mo video footage of crashing Grenadiers on line. I think everyone can get a reasonably clear picture of what the results of the crash tests were. Do we get the minutae? No, but if they were bad there's no way in Helsinki they'd show the footage in public.