Think about it, Manufacturers will do ANYTHING to get out of warranty work. Can you imagine the crap they can come up with for batteries? You over charged, under charged, drove too much, drove too little, hit too many bumps, went off road....and if that skid plate has even a scratch? Forget it. They are denying all the exploding Bronco T/cases if the truck ever went off-road even. I could dive deeper on this but is a HUGE problem. And then you have to get the dead battery to a recycle center....only a few exist. I live off grid and we are fighting through massive Lithium Iron Phosphate battery failures and warranties, and now we have stacks of bad ones sitting in the snow that would cost 400 each just to to ship to a recycler.
Yeah, like driving the vehicle.
I have been following the Edison truck videos. This looks to be a good solution. Disappointing they could not get electric drive axles and other parts from the U.S. and had to go to China.
They said they tried everywhere but no joy, buying Chinese was the only choice available. They contacted the major NA axle manufacturers and none would talk to them. smh. Edison has taken install/repair/warranty deposits from around 40 shops across Canada in the last couple of weeks and is closing applications at the end of next week so that they can vet and train those shops to be ready for launch. An incredible support network out of the gate.
That sort of bollocks does not work in the UK/EU, so long as the customer is honest and has not broken the reasonable conditions set, as consumer law requires "merchantable quality" and case law suggests a 6 or more year life for durable goods, (like a car). If the conditions are not reasonable, then the Courts can strike them out.
Yes, that is exactly an insurance claim for the business.
The dealer is liable, the only question is whether the battery is replaced by the dealer's insurance or JLR's warranty. Even if the dealer's insurance does not cover the flood, they are still on the hook. At worst, the customer may be an unsecured creditor. Time to lawyer up.
I had the misfortune to work for Inchcape in the past. It is not a mistake I will repeat. (I used to be financial controller of the extended motor warranty subsidiary, covering Vauxhall, Fiat, Proton, Lotus, Renault etc. in the 1990s).lt's fairly depressing reading.
Nobody wants to pay for the Jaguar. The dealer is saying it's not liable for "vehicles left in their care for whatever reason"
The insurance company are refusing to pay because they don't cover "vehicles of faulty manufacture"
So both sides are trying to wriggle out of paying.
Customers accuse flooded Jaguar Land Rover dealership of using bouncers to 'hide' ruined cars – Car Dealer Magazine
A Jaguar Land Rover customer whose car was written off in a brutal flood at Inchcape Land Rover Derby says 'security bouncers' at the site are refusingcardealermagazine.co.uk
Nah, closer to $90K, not $110 - and that's drive away in a GXL Troopy. I know, as I priced one up (yes, the new version) last year.A new 78 Series in Oz starts at $110K, which is what a Grenadier starts at with more creature comforts and better capability. Add $50K in accessories and the the LC starts to approach comfort and capability of my specced Grenadier at $130 out the door. Tie that all up with a factory warranty and you have yourself good value for money, my friend
If I may offer an outside perspective: the Troopy and the Defender are very different vehicles, with different strengths & weaknesses. Maybe decide how you want to use your new vehicle the most, and prioritize the value you seek.
The only valid reason to buy a troopy is if you really need that space in the back for camping inside etc, otherwise it’s a truly horrible vehicle to drive and live with. INEOS communication has been very poor, but they do seem to be beavering away in the background trying to get stuff fixed and sorted. Dealer/agent issues are very much down to the actual agent, mine has been absolutely brilliant and I think that has been the same for the majority of Australians, UK seems mixed with some great reports and some not so great, EU seems a bit less awesome and Belgium atrocious, INEOS should fire them they are giving a bad name in my opinion and based on the things I have read here from members.
New Defender is/was one of the others I have considered. If you buy the 4 cylinded model you can get 18 inch wheels. The base P400 comes standard with 19 inch wheels that have minimal tire options. The kicker to me was the work arounds people are using to get 18 inch wheels to fit which involves either grinding away some of the rear brake caliper or completely replacing the rear caliper altogether. I can only imagine what my wife would say if I took a grinder to the brakes on a brand new Defender.
You are dead right on all counts. But I can't make the decision.
