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What does the Differential Locks Front & Rear Do Compared to Centre Differential Lock?

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I am in the process of configuring up a IG and are wondering what the "Differential Locks Front & Rear" will give me over the standard "Centre Differential Lock". In what situation would i need front or rear locked over only the centre diff locked? My current drive has centre diff lock only and I use that when needed. Not sure if I am missing something here or not.
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I am in the process of configuring up a IG and are wondering what the "Differential Locks Front & Rear" will give me over the standard "Centre Differential Lock". In what situation would i need front or rear locked over only the centre diff locked? My current drive has centre diff lock only and I use that when needed. Not sure if I am missing something here or not.
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No diff locks = any one wheel slipping means you’re stuck.
Centre diff locked = any one rear + one front wheel slipping means you’re stuck.
Centre + rear diff locked = both rear wheels + one front wheel slipping means your stuck.
Centre + rear + front diffs locked = all four wheels slipping means your stuck.
 

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I am in the process of configuring up a IG and are wondering what the "Differential Locks Front & Rear" will give me over the standard "Centre Differential Lock". In what situation would i need front or rear locked over only the centre diff locked? My current drive has centre diff lock only and I use that when needed. Not sure if I am missing something here or not.
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There are three things you need to order from the factory with the original order or forget it.
Safari windows
High load wiring
Diff locks.
Axles with diff locks are physically different to those without., so you can't just add the diff locks later.
No idea if aftermarket diff locks will fit. Maybe they will, maybe.............
 

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No diff locks = any one wheel slipping means you’re stuck.
Centre diff locked = any one rear + one front wheel slipping means you’re stuck.
Centre + rear diff locked = both rear wheels + one front wheel slipping means your stuck.
Centre + rear + front diffs locked = all four wheels slipping means your stuck.
Exactly this. Basically with open diffs the power (torque) of the engine will go the route of least resistance, so will go to any wheel/s that have less/no traction. When you lock all the diffs all the power has to be distributed equally across all the wheels so if any wheel/s has traction you have a chance of proceeding.
 

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Axles with diff locks are physically different to those without., so you can't just add the diff locks later.
Having looked at both sets of axles, it's not obvious what is different other than the cable entry point is not drilled on a non locker axle. What would need to be different and why?
 

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Having looked at both sets of axles, it's not obvious what is different other than the cable entry point is not drilled on a non locker axle. What would need to be different and why?
I couldn't understand why either but was told the diff housing is different and the axle stubbs then have to be shorter.
 

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Having looked at both sets of axles, it's not obvious what is different other than the cable entry point is not drilled on a non locker axle. What would need to be different and why?

As I understand it, the Locking diff centres are vehicle (differential) specific. As the Grenadier diff is from Carraro and not a common diff on 4wds so the likelihood of finding one to fit is probably not high currently, which is not to say they won’t emerge in the future, maybe even from Harrop Eaton.
 

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Solmanic explained it all succinctly. So you will order one with front and rear diff locks and (unless you live in Oz or Africa) you'll never ever use them, maybe once or twice to see what they do. So maybe you'll settle for a centre diff (fine for 99.9% of situations, certainly in the UK) and when you sell, your prospective buyer will say: "Does it have front and rear diff locks? What? It doesn't?" Because his mates have told him, as above, that you need them and how could you hold your head up at the bar with just a centre diff? The shame of it. The irony is that when the car gets to 20 years old and it's bashed about plenty and you're not going to spoil much taking it seriously off road, that's when the front and rear diff locks might earn their keep. But unless you have money to burn , and some owners do, you may want to try and protect your £60,000+ investment as much as you can by avoiding the most ridiculous of off roading challenges. Or do those specialist off-roading events in someone else's car as I do. And if that's the way you approach your Grenadier ownership, the centre diff is all you need. OK guys, pile in. I can handle it.
 

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Solmanic explained it all succinctly. So you will order one with front and rear diff locks and (unless you live in Oz or Africa) you'll never ever use them, maybe once or twice to see what they do. So maybe you'll settle for a centre diff (fine for 99.9% of situations, certainly in the UK) and when you sell, your prospective buyer will say: "Does it have front and rear diff locks? What? It doesn't?" Because his mates have told him, as above, that you need them and how could you hold your head up at the bar with just a centre diff? The shame of it. The irony is that when the car gets to 20 years old and it's bashed about plenty and you're not going to spoil much taking it seriously off road, that's when the front and rear diff locks might earn their keep. But unless you have money to burn , and some owners do, you may want to try and protect your £60,000+ investment as much as you can by avoiding the most ridiculous of off roading challenges. Or do those specialist off-roading events in someone else's car as I do. And if that's the way you approach your Grenadier ownership, the centre diff is all you need. OK guys, pile in. I can handle it.
Better to have an not need, than need and not have.
 
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There are three things you need to order from the factory with the original order or forget it.
Safari windows
High load wiring
Diff locks.
Axles with diff locks are physically different to those without., so you can't just add the diff locks later.
No idea if aftermarket diff locks will fit. Maybe they will, maybe.............
Forgive my ignorance, i get the windows and diff. But tell me why the high Load wiring?
 

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Forgive my ignorance, i get the windows and diff. But tell me why the high Load wiring?
I believe it is the size and amount of cabling used, along with the different locations on the vehicle the wiring loom goes to.
It would be very hard to fit the wiring without stripping out the vehicle.
Possible I guess but very expensive.
 
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