What did you do with your Grenadier today?

[TCMColorado]

That really is a great setup. Much better than the factory option but damn it is pricey.

The factory winch option costs more.

 

[Eric]

I did think it was a bit pointless having the vehicles name hidden behind the spare wheel

I wonder if they considered a bonnet fitting as an option

 

[TCMColorado]

I did think it was a bit pointless having the vehicles name hidden behind the spare wheel

Definitely pointless behind the spare, but a nice detail on the cargo door if using a bumper mounted tire carrier like the one sold by Long Range America.

 

[DaveB]

You haven't jammed it off then? Need help?

No, as I previously mentioned I think "jamming" a momentary contact switch off will lead to it burning out prematurely.
Which would mean that entire panel would need to be replaced
I also have concerns that Ineos software updates( I am about to get my third) may be modified to run a scan on all components and that could cause it to fail .

 

[pmatusov]

No, as I previously mentioned I think "jamming" a momentary contact switch off will lead to it burning out prematurely.
Which would mean that entire panel would need to be replaced
I also have concerns that Ineos software updates( I am about to get my third) may be modified to run a scan on all components and that could cause it to fail .

I had a different idea.
You can buy a time-delay relay (this, for example), and wire it in a way that it would close contacts a few seconds after the ignition is turned on, and wire the contacts in parallel with the normally-open contacts of the Start/Stop defeat button.

 

[DaveB]

This just popped up from Ineos

 

[TCMColorado]

I had a different idea.
You can buy a time-delay relay (this, for example), and wire it in a way that it would close contacts a few seconds after the ignition is turned on, and wire the contacts in parallel with the normally-open contacts of the Start/Stop defeat button.

At the risk of sounding flippant, the easy solution is to push the start/stop button immediatly after startup.

 

[ADVAW8S]

This just popped up from Ineos

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That and the announcement that they are back in production in Jan.

 

[DaveB]

At the risk of sounding flippant, the easy solution is to push the start/stop button immediatly after startup.

If I forget my wife hits it when she is in the beast.
Or I swear the first time it kicks in and then hit it.

I had the same issue in my previous car

 

[DaveB]

That and the announcement that they are back in production in Jan.

Interesting we are not getting Arcane vehicles in Australia but we are getting Letech portal axles.

 

[pmatusov]

At the risk of sounding flippant, the easy solution is to push the start/stop button immediatly after startup.

Yeah. Where's the fun in that?
As the others have mentioned before, if you're stopped on a hill, and the engine is OFF, the truck WILL roll backwards before the engine starts back up. It happened to me several times early on, before hitting this button became automatic. So while this feature may be fuel-saving, it is unsafe - not generally, but in INEOS' implementation in the Grenadier.

So... This does not appear too complicated to me:

 

[Max]

No, as I previously mentioned I think "jamming" a momentary contact switch off will lead to it burning out prematurely.
Which would mean that entire panel would need to be replaced
I also have concerns that Ineos software updates( I am about to get my third) may be modified to run a scan on all components and that could cause it to fail .

I hit the stop start, parking assist and the recirculating buttons on start up but if I don't for whatever reason [memory] the stop start doesn't tell me because it doesn't operate...I have in the past not touched it for quite a few start ups and it has randomly stopped the engine when I have come to a stop.
The computer is alive and says after start up don't turn on that function he is going to hit that button [start stop and recirculating but not park assist]...and after I haven't done it for a while it gives me a wake up call...prick of a thing

 

[TCMColorado]

Yeah. Where's the fun in that?
As the others have mentioned before, if you're stopped on a hill, and the engine is OFF, the truck WILL roll backwards before the engine starts back up. It happened to me several times early on, before hitting this button became automatic. So while this feature may be fuel-saving, it is unsafe - not generally, but in INEOS' implementation in the Grenadier.

So... This does not appear too complicated to me:
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I hate the auto start/stop feature and your solution is elegant. But I am lazy when it comes to stuff like this so my pre flight checklist of button pushes will have to suffice. I would feel differently if this list could be eliminated, but removing just one does not solve the pain point. We badly need that software update to retain off settings for start/stop, speed warning and lane keep. But I don't actually expect Ineos to come through.

 

[Deleted member 9052558]

This is for the negative Nannie’s and the certain little group of non owners who seemed to relish in the fact that the production was halted (yes there are some of those on this forum, we know who there are and I’m not giving them any spotlight by naming them)….well Ineos finally broke news that production will start back up January 2025….yea we can wait for it but most of us owners had faith!!!

 

[Deleted member 9052558]

I hate the auto start/stop feature and your solution is elegant. But I am lazy when it comes to stuff like this so my pre flight checklist of button pushes will have to suffice. I would feel differently if this list could be eliminated, but removing just one does not solve the pain point. We badly need that software update to retain off settings for start/stop, speed warning and lane keep. But I don't actually expect Ineos to come through.

I literally just posted one page back maybe two, that the speed warning is NOT coming off permanently with any software update, and posted emails from Ineos employee whether you want to believe it or not that’s on you. I have also asked about the start/stop and lane keep, but I have not received a response yet and I have a feeling they will be sticking with those are safety issues too and no permanent off is coming.

 

[TCMColorado]

I literally just posted one page back maybe two, that the speed warning is NOT coming off permanently with any software update, and posted emails from Ineos employee whether you want to believe it or not that’s on you. I have also asked about the start/stop and lane keep, but I have not received a response yet and I have a feeling they will be sticking with those are safety issues too and no permanent off is coming.

I never expected a software update that would eliminate the nanny alerts and happily bought a Grenadier anyway. It is almost charming that you have to engage with the vehicle before rolling out. Kind of like using a choke or magneto switch in really old vehicles. It is simply part of the ownership experience.

 

[Tazzieman]

It is almost charming that you have to engage with the vehicle before rolling out. Kind of like using a choke or magneto switch in really old vehicles. It is simply part of the ownership experience.

95% of buyers don't get misty eyed over such arcane features but I get your point.
A mall crawler soccer mom tank it is not.

 

[Max]

I never expected a software update that would eliminate the nanny alerts and happily bought a Grenadier anyway. It is almost charming that you have to engage with the vehicle before rolling out. Kind of like using a choke or magneto switch in really old vehicles. It is simply part of the ownership experience.

Show the bloody thing who's boss

 

[DaveB]

Yeah. Where's the fun in that?
As the others have mentioned before, if you're stopped on a hill, and the engine is OFF, the truck WILL roll backwards before the engine starts back up. It happened to me several times early on, before hitting this button became automatic. So while this feature may be fuel-saving, it is unsafe - not generally, but in INEOS' implementation in the Grenadier.

So... This does not appear too complicated to me:
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Question is......does it impact your warranty?
I have no idea by the way

 

[pmatusov]

Question is......does it impact your warranty?
I have no idea by the way

It may, if something gets fried. But so may any electrical or mechanical modification of the vehicle.