What are the options for the Nato plug in the back?

[FlyingTexan]

besides the portable winch most of us probably didn't order, what else can we do with this? Even if you have to splice into the lines? Secondly, if you pull the full current how long can the battery last? Can the motor charge it enough? Wondering if I could power a few fishing lights or something with it. Trying to find reasons to use it.

 

[DaBull]

besides the portable winch most of us probably didn't order, what else can we do with this? Even if you have to splice into the lines? Secondly, if you pull the full current how long can the battery last? Can the motor charge it enough? Wondering if I could power a few fishing lights or something with it. Trying to find reasons to use it.

Hi FlyingTexan, Yes, I find it disappointing that it appears the Nato Plug is useless unless we ordered a rear winch, which I imagine few have ordered. It may too early for anyone to figure out how it can be safely used since we don't have a wiring diagram yet. I am hopefully that someone on this forum with auto electrical experience will find some safe uses for the Nato plug that we can all use. Perhaps for charging the batteries or jump starting or power tools etc. DaBull

 

[Lemon35]

@FlyingTexan thanks for starting this topic.

I was thinking of making an adapter/splice into a nato plug for my 4 tire air compressor? It's set up to clamp to the battery terminal posts currently. I have no plans or desire to install an onboard air compressor.

Disclosure: I have done ZERO research yet, so you electrical engineers out there please don't nuke me if this is the dumbest thing you've read today.

 

[ADVAW8S]

Nato plug historically were used to jump start another vehicle. You can buy adaptors for charging field equipment. US military use them to charge phones.

 

[grenadierboy]

@FlyingTexan thanks for starting this topic.

I was thinking of making an adapter/splice into a nato plug for my 4 tire air compressor? It's set up to clamp to the battery terminal posts currently. I have no plans or desire to install an onboard air compressor.

Disclosure: I have done ZERO research yet, so you electrical engineers out there please don't nuke me if this is the dumbest thing you've read today.

Just FYI - a single air compressor can be neatly installed under the rear seat on the right (passenger side for LHD) of the car.

I know because I have down it; the ARB CKMA12 compressor.

 

[anand]

besides the portable winch most of us probably didn't order, what else can we do with this? Even if you have to splice into the lines? Secondly, if you pull the full current how long can the battery last? Can the motor charge it enough? Wondering if I could power a few fishing lights or something with it. Trying to find reasons to use it.

How long the battery lasts and can the motor charge it purely depend on how much current you're pulling through it. If I'm not mistaken, it will only be powered when the ignition is on and the EXT4 switch is on.

In theory, a 500A load (what it is max. rated for) would deplete the battery to a damaging level in around 6 minutes if the engine wasn't running. With the engine at idle this would increase to around 9 minutes.

As stated, the reason it is rated to 500A is for jump starting purposes, which only last a few seconds at a time.

You could very easily adapt the NATO to an Anderson SB350 (or 175 or 50) and charge a battery bank on a trailer while driving

 

[Clark Kent]

besides the portable winch most of us probably didn't order, what else can we do with this? Even if you have to splice into the lines? Secondly, if you pull the full current how long can the battery last? Can the motor charge it enough? Wondering if I could power a few fishing lights or something with it. Trying to find reasons to use it.

There is a long thread about the NATO socket here.
I made a NATO to 50A Anderson adapter to provide power to the DC-DC charger in my camper trailer. See here.
I derated the supply circuit by swapping the 350A fuse with a 60A fuse to suit my DC charger and to run my portable plug-in compressor.
The MY24 owners manual supplement has specific warnings (disclaimers) about using the NATO socket for other purposes. See post 260 of that thread.

 

[DaBull]

@FlyingTexan thanks for starting this topic.

I was thinking of making an adapter/splice into a nato plug for my 4 tire air compressor? It's set up to clamp to the battery terminal posts currently. I have no plans or desire to install an onboard air compressor.

Disclosure: I have done ZERO research yet, so you electrical engineers out there please don't nuke me if this is the dumbest thing you've read today.

Hi Lemon35, Here's the warning link from Ineos regarding the Nato Plug. DaBull
https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/nato-plug-socket.12410957/post-1333238448

 

[Lemon35]

@DaBull Thanks.

What I am thinking of will certainly require a de-rating with fuse swaps similar to what @Clark Kent Posted.

I'll be taking time with this one... not sure how I want to set up the rear of the truck yet.

 

[FlyingTexan]

@DaBull Thanks.

What I am thinking of will certainly require a de-rating with fuse swaps similar to what @Clark Kent Posted.

I'll be taking time with this one... not sure how I want to set up the rear of the truck yet.

I wonder how easy it is to tie into that wiring and use it for a 2000w inverter in the back instead.

 

[Clark Kent]

I wonder how easy it is to tie into that wiring and use it for a 2000w inverter in the back instead.

Quite easy. The Ext4 (500A) overhead switch controls a solenoid fitted in the right rear corner under the trim. The solenoid and wiring are visible in this pic. There is a positive feed from the solenoid through the RH wheel arch to the NATO socket. The negative side of the NATO socket uses an earth return.
It would not be difficult to pick off power at the output side of the solenoid for other purposes like an inverter. The circuit is fused at 350A as noted above.

 

[Arat]

@FlyingTexan thanks for starting this topic.

I was thinking of making an adapter/splice into a nato plug for my 4 tire air compressor? It's set up to clamp to the battery terminal posts currently. I have no plans or desire to install an onboard air compressor.

Disclosure: I have done ZERO research yet, so you electrical engineers out there please don't nuke me if this is the dumbest thing you've read today.

I also have similar interest (for ARB twin compressor), another possible use, for Converter, Thx, Cheers

 

[Mountain4x4]

Interesting, since I own an Australian camper....that Nato to Anderson adapter will be perfect!

 

[r75-gespann]

Hello, at first time i saw the nato Socket i wondered. But at the second i saw that is very nice to habe. I find a starter cable .... And its works fine. I don't Must unlock the seats like defender. Now i build a portable back winch and connected it with the nato Socket. It works almost fine. It's enough for winching cars on Trailer or trees of the wood. If i need the Socket i let the engine run.

 

[FlyingTexan]

Hello, at first time i saw the nato Socket i wondered. But at the second i saw that is very nice to habe. I find a starter cable .... And its works fine. I don't Must unlock the seats like defender. Now i build a portable back winch and connected it with the nato Socket. It works almost fine. It's enough for winching cars on Trailer or trees of the wood. If i need the Socket i let the engine run.

Where did you find this adapter?

 

[DezRoamer]

@FlyingTexan thanks for starting this topic.

I was thinking of making an adapter/splice into a nato plug for my 4 tire air compressor? It's set up to clamp to the battery terminal posts currently. I have no plans or desire to install an onboard air compressor.

Disclosure: I have done ZERO research yet, so you electrical engineers out there please don't nuke me if this is the dumbest thing you've read today.

I think it's a good idea. I too have been imagining different ways to utilize the plug.

 

[r75-gespann]

Hello, i buy it at e...y . The ignition cable is six meters and not very flexible. I buy it for 140€. The plug ( i hope thats right) i buy online for 30€ . Thanks

 

[portafilter]

Just FYI - a single air compressor can be neatly installed under the rear seat on the right (passenger side for LHD) of the car.

I know because I have down it; the ARB CKMA12 compressor.

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this is very tidy - where did you pick up power from?

 

[FlyingTexan]

Wanted to bump this and see if there's been any new ideas or products.

 

[Clark Kent]

Wanted to bump this and see if there's been any new ideas or products.

I see it's over a year since I posted in this thread. Time flies.

If it runs on 12v DC at less than 350A continuous you can power it from the NATO Socket. A reminder that the switch is labelled as 500A but the fuse is 350A.
Just remember that Ineos does not endorse use of the NATO socket for anything other than the removable rear winch so you're on your own if it goes up in smoke.

Aside from sending power to a trailer or caravan:
Portable or briefcase compressor
Camp lights
Charger for devices or power tools (with or without a small inverter)
Drone charger, maybe?
12v rattle gun
.....

You just need to add a NATO plug and an adaptor to whatever format you will connect through. I'm using an SB50 Anderson (posted above) because that's what my camper and portable compressor have.
While I'm rehashing; you also need to reconfigure the Albright solenoid so it stays closed when you want to use the NATO socket. Mine is triggered by an ignition feed so it's live when the key is turned ON. I run the engine when I use the compressor and the solenoid opens when the ignition is off so it doesn't drain my battery when I am connected to my camper (DC-DC charger) without the engine running.