water in passenger footwell (RHD vehicle)

[Skydance]

Why do we.always put up with poor service I don't .

Why do we.always put up with poor service I don't .

I normally wouldn’t if there was more dealers around.

 

[Skydance]

I wonder if I put lagging on these pipes to solve the drips of water caused by condensation. Stripping to this stage take 1/2 hour when you know how to. Not sure if you need to take out the heater box though.

 

[Skydance]

Can someone take a pic and post what their cabin filter looks like? It’s just one 10mm nut to remove and two locking tabs to pop it off. Seems to be a rare occurrence so perhaps I’m missing an additional cover here. I checked to make sure the water drains from that area and it does. Only leaks when driving in the rain, perfectly dry when just sitting outside regardless of how hard it rains.

This is mine when car is off. The flap should be closed. Mine doesn’t have the issue leaking when it rains. Only drips from the aircon pipe.

 

[Maskinut]

My issue is definitely rain-related.
* Drove 4k miles with AC on, no rain, no water in passenger footwell.
* Thunderstorm, drive 30 seconds (ac still on) and my feet started getting dripped on pretty significantly and you could see it streaming in form the dash.

 

[Andiamo]

My issue is definitely rain-related.
* Drove 4k miles with AC on, no rain, no water in passenger footwell.
* Thunderstorm, drive 30 seconds (ac still on) and my feet started getting dripped on pretty significantly and you could see it streaming in form the dash.

Are you seeing the water coming into the passenger footwell or drivers side when using the AC in the rain? I have the issue of it pulling water through the cabin filter vent on the passenger side, which stops completely when switched to recirculation (closing the vent). Looking at the cabin filter/vent with the cover off it seems to pull the water right through. Solved completely (for now until fixed by dealer) by switching over to recirculate.

 

[rovie]

Are you seeing the water coming into the passenger footwell or drivers side when using the AC in the rain? I have the issue of it pulling water through the cabin filter vent on the passenger side, which stops completely when switched to recirculation (closing the vent). Looking at the cabin filter/vent with the cover off it seems to pull the water right through. Solved completely (for now until fixed by dealer) by switching over to recirculate.

Hi @Andiamo, many vehicles have exactly this problem. So does my vehicle, by the way. You have described it exactly. Ineos recognises the problem in connection with the heat exchanger. There are leaks here that need to be repaired. As I understand it, however, the entire dashboard has to be removed to fix it. The effort involved is not insignificant.

 

[Tom109]

Are you seeing the water coming into the passenger footwell or drivers side when using the AC in the rain…

Hi @Andiamo, many vehicles have exactly this problem. So does my vehicle...

Just last weekend I encountered water drips on the driver side rubber floor mat (LHD). Only on the mat and not under it. First real test of the AC in high heat & humidity, but absolutely zero rain.

Is this what you both are referring to?

 

[rovie]

Just last weekend I encountered water drips on the driver side rubber floor mat (LHD). Only on the mat and not under it. First real test of the AC in high heat & humidity, but absolutely zero rain.

Is this what you both are referring to?

Hi @Tom109 as stupid as it sounds. There are two types of water droplets. If you drive for a long time when the outside temperature is high and the air conditioning is switched to very cool, the water mainly drips onto the floor mats on both sides directly at the air vent openings on the centre tunnel.
The other issue occurs when you drive in heavy rain. Then the water drips from the filter housing under the glove compartment onto the floor mat, as well described by @Andiamo.

 

[Tom109]

@rovie - thanks for that clarification. We have driven in a lot of rain but no drips. Sounds like I have condensation, which I will add to the dealer fix it list.

 

[Maskinut]

I was driving in heavy rain and most likely had the AC and recirc on. At other times I was driving with the AC on and heavy rain and I'm guessing maybe no recirc as the water was less intense. Anyone know how long it needed to be in the shop for the dash out repair?

 

[Skydance]

I was driving in heavy rain and most likely had the AC and recirc on. At other times I was driving with the AC on and heavy rain and I'm guessing maybe no recirc as the water was less intense. Anyone know how long it needed to be in the shop for the dash out repair?

Currently the fix is from Ineos is to change the micro filter/cabin filter. The new filter has foam on. Personally I doubt it would fix it. Got my car back yesterday and yet to test out. Waiting for a hot day.

Basically the micro filter when new did have black foam on. Then went for an annual service and they changed it to a plain white Ineos micro filter. Now it’s got foam on again

 

[MTNDOG]

I was driving in heavy rain and most likely had the AC and recirc on. At other times I was driving with the AC on and heavy rain and I'm guessing maybe no recirc as the water was less intense. Anyone know how long it needed to be in the shop for the dash out repair?

Footwell Water Ingress - cabin filter

Cabin Filter Water Ingress. An issue has been identified on a small percentage of the affected vehicles where water appears in the passenger footwell. Click on the download button for more details.

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Footwell water intrusion

A manufacturing issue has been identified on a small percentage of the affected vehicles where water will appear in the footwell and down the center tunnel. Click on the download button for more details.

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Hopefully, you could get it fixed with first TSB.

 

[Skydance]

Footwell Water Ingress - cabin filter

Cabin Filter Water Ingress. An issue has been identified on a small percentage of the affected vehicles where water appears in the passenger footwell. Click on the download button for more details.

www.theineosforum.com

Footwell water intrusion

A manufacturing issue has been identified on a small percentage of the affected vehicles where water will appear in the footwell and down the center tunnel. Click on the download button for more details.

www.theineosforum.com

Hopefully, you could get it fixed with first TSB.

I hope so too. The reason why I’m doubtful is the droplets is from the side of the central console (passenger side) running down onto the floor. It’s no where near the cabin filter or underneath.

 

[euroflo]

Just noticed some water droplets in mine today...
Humidity is a little high...
Looks like the condensate may be leaking at this joint...
or some place above

 

[trobex]

My issue is definitely rain-related.
* Drove 4k miles with AC on, no rain, no water in passenger footwell.
* Thunderstorm, drive 30 seconds (ac still on) and my feet started getting dripped on pretty significantly and you could see it streaming in form the dash.

No, I do not think LH footwell water ingress is due to rain, generally due to high humidity from most users. Rain does not seem to be a consensus on that issue. I think just about every comment relating to this is during higher-than-normal humidity. I particularly notice it when my vehicle leaves my garage where internal temp is lower than external ambient + humidity. Almost instant water drops forming and going in to the left hand footwell.

 

[trobex]

I hope so too. The reason why I’m doubtful is the droplets is from the side of the central console (passenger side) running down onto the floor. It’s no where near the cabin filter or underneath.

My view is this has absolutely nothing to do with cabin filter... blockages of such or any other issue relating to cabin filter or adjacent elements. I have been keeping an eye on this for nearly 10 months and going to dealer soon to get it fixed. It nearly 100% occurs whenever humidity is over 80%. Sometimes occurs at 70%. Condensation and will need to be fixed. I am not accepting a part time repair or 'it will be ok' statement. Water sits on the bottom of footwell (metal) between my mats and will eventually causes series issues.

 

[Skydance]

My view is this has absolutely nothing to do with cabin filter... blockages of such or any other issue relating to cabin filter or adjacent elements. I have been keeping an eye on this for nearly 10 months and going to dealer soon to get it fixed. It nearly 100% occurs whenever humidity is over 80%. Sometimes occurs at 70%. Condensation and will need to be fixed. I am not accepting a part time repair or 'it will be ok' statement. Water sits on the bottom of footwell (metal) between my mats and will eventually causes series issues.

Agree with you totally. I’ve been informed there is a new fix which involves some padding/insulation of the pipes. So glove box and heater unit needs to be removed. Mine happens occasionally as the weather in the UK is not as humid and good job I got rubber mats (which it drips onto)

However, padding is a short term fix. A proper fix is (I think) is to do with the software controlling the actuators. When both hot air and cold blow together, condensation will obviously form. A HVAC issue most of us have.

 

[markferd]

Has anyone had the problem of water droplets entering the passenger footwell (RHD) fixed yet? I have reported the issue to my dealer three times and despite assurances that it has been fixed, water entry onto the floor and side wall carpets in the passenger footwell continues. I’m convinced it is related to the airconditioning not other causes.

 

[Clark Kent]

Has anyone had the problem of water droplets entering the passenger footwell (RHD) fixed yet? I have reported the issue to my dealer three times and despite assurances that it has been fixed, water entry onto the floor and side wall carpets in the passenger footwell continues. I’m convinced it is related to the airconditioning not other causes.

Yes, but...
My agent recently had the dash out of my vehicle to do an AC condensate fix. It seemed to be resolved but I'm currently in Townsville in very high humidity and have small amounts of water droplets coming out the floor vent on both sides. Only happens in high humidity and Townsville is a place where your glasses fog up as soon as you step outside.

 

[OGrid]

Has anyone had the problem of water droplets entering the passenger footwell (RHD) fixed yet? I have reported the issue to my dealer three times and despite assurances that it has been fixed, water entry onto the floor and side wall carpets in the passenger footwell continues. I’m convinced it is related to the airconditioning not other causes.

I’ve lost count the amount of times the HVAC on my vehicle has been looked at. Sometimes days at a time, but yet no permanent fix for this issue has been implemented. The HVAC has not been replaced (yet).

The attached photo is from a couple weeks back, after about 4.5 hours driving. Only when the humidity is high (Sydney) does this occur. No external water is on the ground of my parked vehicle, ever. The water under the floor mat is much more than what you see above in the photo. Funtimes

edit: yes I have carpet. It’s been fine, but acts like a sponge