Americas USA Payload Stickers

[Tom109]

My sticker states max payload: 666kg / 1468lb. I think I got a special version.

 

[Mountain4x4]

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This payload sticker was posted by the owner who is on this forum. It is for a Trialmaster with Safari windows, but not with a winch [slight edit]. The payload is 1,376 pounds (624 kg).

It is worth remembering that the specs in the Ineos brochure are for maximum possible payload (and maximum possible towing), which is how all manufacturers present payload and towing specs for their vehicles. For the petrol Grenadier, max payload is 1,916 pounds (871 kg), which is right around what they promised all those years ago (the stated goal during vehicle development was 2,000 pounds).

However, almost no one ever buys a vehicle with the max specs, because pretty much every option a buyer ticks adds weight to the vehicle, thereby decreasing its payload.

A payload of 1,376 pounds for a midsize 4x4 is considered very good in the North American market (we don't have the 70-series Landcruiser here, which is a payload beast).

A Jeep Wrangler Rubicon - similarly equipped to the Trialmaster mentioned above - will have a payload of around 850-880 pounds (steel bumpers, lockers, no winch).

A lot of similarly equipped midsize pickup trucks (e.g. Tacoma, Gladiator) will have payloads around 1,000-1,200 pounds; I just looked at a Gladiator Rubicon with a payload of 1,083 pounds, and my Tacoma is 1,100 pounds. The Ford Ranger does quite a bit better: 1,200- 1,800 pounds - depending on options.

A well-equipped Power Wagon - which is clearly in a different class of vehicle - with solid axles front and rear, lockers front and rear, steel bumpers, a winch, heated seats, and a spray-in bedliner - has a payload of 1,510 pounds. The frame and full-float axles on the Power Wagon are heavy duty, and are the exact same frame and axles that are spec'd to carry a payload of over 4,000 pounds on other Ram 2500s. The limiting factor with the Power Wagon is its suspension: the springs are soft in order to achieve maximum articulation off-road. A very easy spring swap can get you a functional payload of 2,000 pounds - if that is something an owner wanted to do.

Conclusion: the Trialmaster version results in a drop in payload from 1,916 pounds (base petrol Grenadier), to 1,376 pounds. That's a drop of 540 pounds (without a winch). I would guess that you lose another 50-75 pounds with a winch. But nevertheless, a payload of 1,300 - 1,400 pounds for a "triple-locked" midsize 4x4 (here in North America) is quite good.

Awesome analyses. Some of its just voodoo to me. For instance my 2005 Xterra had about 100lbs of payload before bottoming out The Power Wagon gets neutered claiming springs and tires. But yet in 170,000 miles I have towed brutal loads of 12-13K over Rocky Mountain passes and 15K off road with out the slightest issue. I have a feeling the Grenadier being so over built will take what you can hand it.

 

[Krabby]

I don't have a pic with me, but mine has to be wrong - it was like 600 pounds unless I looked at it incorrectly. I'll take a snap tonight when I get home.

 

[Tom109]

I don't have a pic with me, but mine has to be wrong - it was like 600 pounds unless I looked at it incorrectly. I'll take a snap tonight when I get home.

Probably 600kg.

 

[Krabby]

 

[Krabby]

Probably 600kg.

Nope.

 

[terdrocket]

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Oh wow, about half of the 1268lbs listed on my sticker.

 

[Tom109]

Doesn’t make sense? Check to see what springs you have front/rear.

 

[Krabby]

Doesn’t make sense? Check to see what springs you have front/rear.

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that will have to wait until Weds. I won’t see the truck in daylight from now until Weds afternoon.

 

[[ Adam ]]

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What trim & accessories do you have installed?

 

[MTNDOG]

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CAT scale time.... I'm sure it's wrong but how do u get it corrected?

 

[Krabby]

Trialmaster
Heated seats
Window tint
Trailer hitch
Rubber floor mats
(No safaris, no winch, no steps…)

 

[Krabby]

CAR scale time.... I'm sure it's wrong but how do u get it corrected?

Not sure. Sent to dealer who have to service director to look into. I would hope that the factory can pull up my spec and print an updated decal. The dealer can swap out next time I’m there.

 

[[ Adam ]]

Trialmaster
Heated seats
Window tint
Trailer hitch
Rubber floor mats
(No safaris, no winch, no steps…)

Wow.

I have nearly the same plus safaris and have 1376 lbs of payload

 

[Bruce]

Trialmaster
Heated seats
Window tint
Trailer hitch
Rubber floor mats
(No safaris, no winch, no steps…)

I have all that plus leather and safaris.

Edit: I realized this is the wrong sticker. The Grenadier has 1402 lbs payload.

 

[Krabby]

It has to be a mistake.

 

[Krabby]

I have all that plus leather and safaris.
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Your sticker looks different too. My vin is 10257

 

[terdrocket]

Trialmaster
Safari windows
Front Winch
Rock Sliders
Heated seats
Window tint
Trailer hitch
Rubber floor mats
+ ordered with 3/4 roof rack, picnic table, and checker plates.

 

[Norb-TX]

Maybe they replaced it before the hitch software update and forgot to take it off?

 

[AngusMacG]

Definitely incorrect info in yours @Krabby. I have the integrated winch, no safari windows, and tow hitch (to be installed)
here’s mine: