Yea, looks like a classic BMW part.It was a great day! i spent about half a day just hanging out and talking to all the people passing through. They had the post sales director there for America who had only been with Ineos 6 months. The enthusiasm for us was fantastic. My favorite thing I found out yesterday was where the gas cap goes while you fill up. Lol
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I think you nailed the answer right here.
And maybe this vehicle is not a good fit for them and they were never IG's intended target customer.
The Ineos and GX/LX comparison is one I was hoping not to have to make. The comparisons in philosophy of use are closer than people might think.Some of the feedback from another reservationist at the event involved the price point vs other vehicles, especially if majority of driving is on road. They absolutely loved the test drive, but when you start approaching and/or passing that $80k+ price point, you have to consider other luxury vehicles and the interior comforts they offer. The Lexus GX and LX were mentioned. The IG's looks and abilities still tip them towards a purchase decision, but it's not as easy of a decision as it seemed to be for them pre-test drive. And maybe this vehicle is not a good fit for them and they were never IG's intended target consumer. Nevertheless, it's a valid consideration that I am sure other potential urban customers may struggle with.
Personally, I see tons of value in all the tier 1 components, engineering, and deliberate minimalism (no power seats, no auto windows, etc). And of course, I would make use of its capabilities. It should have less repairs on average and easily last 30+ years - that is the cost/yr math that helps me rationalize it. As others have said elsewhere, I hope IG keeps their niche design focus and resists the temptation to compromise in order to appeal to a broader audience.
Well said! I think I talked to them too. Was it a father, son?Some of the feedback from another reservationist at the event involved the price point vs other vehicles, especially if majority of driving is on road. They absolutely loved the test drive, but when you start approaching and/or passing that $80k+ price point, you have to consider other luxury vehicles and the interior comforts they offer. The Lexus GX and LX were mentioned. The IG's looks and abilities still tip them towards a purchase decision, but it's not as easy of a decision as it seemed to be for them pre-test drive. And maybe this vehicle is not a good fit for them and they were never IG's intended target consumer. Nevertheless, it's a valid consideration that I am sure other potential urban customers may struggle with.
Personally, I see tons of value in all the tier 1 components, engineering, and deliberate minimalism (no power seats, no auto windows, etc). And of course, I would make use of its capabilities. It should have less repairs on average and easily last 30+ years - that is the cost/yr math that helps me rationalize it. As others have said elsewhere, I hope IG keeps their niche design focus and resists the temptation to compromise in order to appeal to a broader audience.
They would not speak about price, but they did say they are doing a Franchise model for dealers in the US.Did the IG staff give any indication of pricing? It is going to be a delicate balance for IG and the public plus dealers.
Trialmaster...same for me. I was hoping it could be removed and panel installed too. Fingers crossed-Trialmaster comes with raised air intake whether you want it or not. To me it’s the only option on it I don’t want but has everything else. Intake was very well attached but was told by the rep he’s going to order his then remove the intake and replace it with the original panel. I don’t know how difficult that will be.
The Lexus LX is currently the only one available in Australia and it is just a Prado with an ugly faceThe Ineos and GX/LX comparison is one I was hoping not to have to make. The comparisons in philosophy of use are closer than people might think.
My v8 4runner (same chassis and engine as the current GX) has over 250k miles. It's taken my family 10s of thousands of hard, off-road miles all over the southwest. It's capability and reliability are a known quantity. We treat it like a piece of equipment.
Maybe the Ineos Is more capable, but probably not much. The ramp travel index is about the same (with a nod to the GX's kdss) and electic traction control has taken me places without getting stuck that many on this forum would consider "too hardcore" for an overlander.
A GX has the edge in comfort and refinement, with vented seats, dual AC compressors, and on road manners.
Which is more reliable? The GX platform is know for going half a million miles. I beat the crap out of mine and it's been dead reliable for a quarter million miles. The Ineos uses great componets but it's not a know quantity and won't be for years.
I'd really like to buy an Ineos and use it to its full potential. We're lucky to live where we can drive hundreds of miles offroad on a regular basis. But if it ends up costing more than a reasonably specd GX, I'm really going to have to pause.
The Ineos and GX/LX comparison is one I was hoping not to have to make. The comparisons in philosophy of use are closer than people might think.
My v8 4runner (same chassis and engine as the current GX) has over 250k miles. It's taken my family 10s of thousands of hard, off-road miles all over the southwest. It's capability and reliability are a known quantity. We treat it like a piece of equipment.
Maybe the Ineos Is more capable, but probably not much. The ramp travel index is about the same (with a nod to the GX's kdss) and electic traction control has taken me places without getting stuck that many on this forum would consider "too hardcore" for an overlander.
A GX has the edge in comfort and refinement, with vented seats, dual AC compressors, and on road manners.
Which is more reliable? The GX platform is know for going half a million miles. I beat the crap out of mine and it's been dead reliable for a quarter million miles. The Ineos uses great componets but it's not a know quantity and won't be for years.
I'd really like to buy an Ineos and use it to its full potential. We're lucky to live where we can drive hundreds of miles offroad on a regular basis. But if it ends up costing more than a reasonably specd GX, I'm really going to have to pause.
Test drive a Rivian. I'm sure you'll want both. Frankly, that would be the perfect tandem of vehicles to have. Both capable Offroad, nice enough to drive for white collar work, can tow reasonable amounts, and can stick to the electric for short trips, grenadier for longer ones.We drove down from Austin just for the event and was 100% impressed with the staff, setup, and vehicles. My wife was planning to ride along but there was an available truck so she was able to take the wheel. After driving she got out, looked at me, and said, "pass on the rivian...this is it". I agree on the price point being the most sensitive. The purposeful simplicity and ruggedness are going to challenge the price:value for the average buyer. I think the thing that hooked me was looking at the chassis. It was described as a 3/4 ton chassis built for half ton vehicle. It would have been great to get on road feel (event was low range with sand/water/mud) but that will have to wait for the usual bureaucracy to catch up. Great job North American team and if you are able to get out to any of the events I suspect you will be impressed. They asked for no in vehicle photos/video so here are a few pics from the event.
Rivian is excellent to a pointTest drive a Rivian. I'm sure you'll want both. Frankly, that would be the perfect tandem of vehicles to have. Both capable Offroad, nice enough to drive for white collar work, can tow reasonable amounts, and can stick to the electric for short trips, grenadier for longer ones.
I would love to see them next to each other. Please!Maybe they will let me put them side to side at the "LA" test drive?
No. They even made us give back the lanyards!Did they have and merch for sale? Or freebees?