Turning radius improvement with simple bolt-stop mod?

[C-Mack]

Steering stops were put there for a reason by the designers. It doesn't seem advisable to mess with them as they obviously felt a hard mechanical stop was needed to either protect a specific component of the steering system or front axle.

It could also be for added support/protection off-road, if one of the front wheels hits an object hard enough and the wheel is forced to pivot fully with the momentum and weight of the entire vehicle behind it a fixed stop could prevent damage to vital components such as hub axle joints or the steering box from going beyond it's safe amount of travel/rotation.

I'm sure folks who have made changes to their stops will be fine but having them there as an additional safety measure seems the more prudent thing to do.

 

[Dokatd]

Steering stops were put there for a reason by the designers. It doesn't seem advisable to mess with them as they obviously felt a hard mechanical stop was needed to either protect a specific component of the steering system or front axle.

It could also be for added support/protection off-road, if one of the front wheels hits an object hard enough and the wheel is forced to pivot fully with the momentum and weight of the entire vehicle behind it a fixed stop could prevent damage to vital components such as hub axle joints or the steering box from going beyond it's safe amount of travel/rotation.

I'm sure folks who have made changes to their stops will be fine but having them there as an additional safety measure seems the more prudent thing to do.

Steering stops were put there for a reason by the designers. It doesn't seem advisable to mess with them as they obviously felt a hard mechanical stop was needed to either protect a specific component of the steering system or front axle.

It could also be for added support/protection off-road, if one of the front wheels hits an object hard enough and the wheel is forced to pivot fully with the momentum and weight of the entire vehicle behind it a fixed stop could prevent damage to vital components such as hub axle joints or the steering box from going beyond it's safe amount of travel/rotation.

I'm sure folks who have made changes to their stops will be fine but having them there as an additional safety measure seems the more prudent thing to do.

You aren’t wrong but you aren’t right. Steering stops are found on virtually every vehicle on the road in some form or another. They are used to achieve different things based on the vehicles application and build. Most of the time on trucks like the Grenadier they are to keep tires from rubbing. Yet the grenadier in stock form cannot even hit its own steering stops due to some design flaw. Now look at the original defender as a comparison, it used the stops for two things. First it used them to keep tires from rubbing the radius arms and second they were there to protect the CV axles from excessive angles as they get weak when steered heavily. This isn’t the case on the Grenadier as it had Double Cardan axles. Now certainly they can get delicate at certain angles, but they can far exceed a typical CV in practice. Yet the grenadier has some steering bind well before the DC axle even meets the max angle of a CV shaft.

Regardless, the steering stops are more or less in the Grenadier to prevent the tires from contacting other components and only secondarily there to prevent exceeding an axle components max angle. So adjusting the stops is fine so long as it’s being done properly.

Don’t be one one of those people that thinks Ineos, Magna etc doesn’t make compromises or mistakes etc. Automotive companies have to make vehicles that work for as many people as they can. In doing this they almost never maximize the vehicles performance. And this is even more true on a new build such as the Grenadier. They are taking baby steps to make sure they succeed and sometimes they fail miserably such as they did with the entire steering system on the Grenadier.