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I think there are probably a lot of G Wagen folks do now know a lot about them. Military, Built in the 70's, how to spell it, how to pronounce it. Heck there are new Defender owners and other Land Rover owners for that matter have similar issues with the real Defender. lol
They are. I have a '93 M998 and it's a freaking blast to drive. And I drove the hell out of my D90 for 10-12 years. Loved it. Unimog's, maybe not so much. I love them but they are not "comfortable" vehicles in relative terms. And honestly my G wagon is a bit nicer to drive than the Grenadier, but the Grenadier is still a solid and fun truck.
Not at all. I like the truck. The steering isn't the biggest issue I have, its the downshifting is wonkey. I like things, I just don't have emotional attachments to things, and lack cognitive dissonance, so if something isn't how I wanted, I address it without regret. I'm the guy that walks into your office and says "congratulations you just fired yourself". As I've said elsewhere when asked, I believe most buyers will get used to the steering if they stick it out. But like Dokatd wrote, the company line that the steering is like this for offroading, is gaslighting. I had a defender 110nas. And multiple old landcruisers, gwagons, ford f trucks back to the 60's farm truck that was so over powered, you needed only a finger and felt nothing at all, yet, it returned to center like lightening.
Geared hubs making the truck rock back and forth at a traffic light was a great side effect feeling also. lol. The one "problem" I ever had was just after wheeling I didn't inflate my tires yet. So at about 15-20 psi and 25+ mph I drove over a bridge and the truck was wandering and mushy all over the road.
Just keep in mind, post '19 G's (463) are not the same car as a military G. If I could have purchased a brand new 461, yinz would be suffering with me. Blame MB. Write them a letter.
E39 M5 for one example.
People disagreeing with you get ya down or something? I dont think people in any meaningful scale cross shop the Grenadier with the new G-class. It doesn’t make sense, they are extremely different vehicles in completely different market segments.
Yep, Ineos PR department either thought we were all stupid or they just had no clue themselves.
I'm with you. New G-Wagens are dime a dozen in this town, which is wild considering what they cost. But they also depreciate quickly. They're comfortable, a compact size, and still mechanically amazing. It's not clear to me their purpose or best use, except as a conspicuous consumption item. Am I envious because they cost approximately twice a Grenadier in a nice state of trim? Maybe a bit envious. Lol.
The best way for Ineos is insulate themselves from a tariff issue, or any issue, is to start doing some better marketing. Influencers, non traditional, USA promos, events, internet etc. at this point in time not enough people understand the product for them to have any insulation from global issues. If they are doing a good job increasing demand then tariffs aren’t an issue at all.
The US isn't changing status. Commodities and money talk. The govt isn't the same as a company. Until there's a tariff on Canadian oil the US refiners are still going to buy it. My boss was CEO of Enbridge. They're the oil coming to Houston. They're not worried about it.
Ineos doesn't really have to do anything to be honest. They have a backlog and are only producing about 55k I year, I think. The US originally was getting about 7k but maybe that's changed. Either way they have enough movement in the world to not need us at all. It would just be a blow to the dealers.
