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Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported vehicles!

All this talk of guns , and youngsters holding guns, is making Donald very nervous. And he's pissed off at Putin. You don't want pissed and nervous leaders.
Now , let's get back to talking tariffs!
Or let's not 😁
Here you go!!!
Firearms and tariffs in one go
Not sure if Turkey will be subject to tariffs but Austria certainly will be.


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Also interesting is the English Bill of Rights 1688 which gave all citizens the right to bear arms.

Much of the wording of that bill was lifted directly into the US constitution.
One point, our constitution doesn’t give us rights, we have those rights and the constitution sets limits on what the government can do or regulate. While words were lifted, it is a rather unique document for its time.
 
The fact that you just introduced the association of gun ownership with bravado and superiority means that you might associate gun ownership with bravado and superiority, or those feigning it. The facts are that most Americans own guns but never discuss them outside of hunting or sport shooting clubs. I know a lot of people. I served in an infantry unity in the US Army. I don't know anyone who brags about their guns.
What it means, is we don't stfu about owning guns. Go to any other modern democracy, and the topic just never comes up. Just us Americans. And no, I'm not anti gun. It's just a matter of being self aware and noting some observations about us aren't an insult, they are just observations.
 
This is an example of what is going on - https://archive.is/3iVmL

Harley Davidson - Their big twins currently have a 25% VAT tax and a 150% Luxury tax in Denmark for example. A Roadglide, which starts at $28,000, starts out at $77,000 in Europe. Because Trump is looking at reciprocal tariffs, Europe is looking to tack another 25% tariff on top of that, adding over $100,000 to the cost of the bike.

I disagree with HD because they are only now bitching about the additional taxes, were quiet about the previous rules, and now wants payment for the additional taxes. However, this exemplifies why currently 60% or so of the American public support Trump with the tariffs. Make them reciprocal or eliminate them all.
 
This is an example of what is going on - https://archive.is/3iVmL

Harley Davidson - Their big twins currently have a 25% VAT tax and a 150% Luxury tax in Denmark for example. A Roadglide, which starts at $28,000, starts out at $77,000 in Europe. Because Trump is looking at reciprocal tariffs, Europe is looking to tack another 25% tariff on top of that, adding over $100,000 to the cost of the bike.

I disagree with HD because they are only now bitching about the additional taxes, were quiet about the previous rules, and now wants payment for the additional taxes. However, this exemplifies why currently 60% or so of the American public support Trump with the tariffs. Make them reciprocal or eliminate them all.

Not very factual.

Denmark is in the EU, but that luxury tax is Denmark specific. It also applies to the IG for example where the tax is a huge 178%.

A Roadglide is under £28k in the UK.
 
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Most countries in Europe have higher taxes on luxury vehicles of one form or another, whether they are locally made or imported from anywhere. The USA is not at a disadvantage with most of them, except the USA does not make vehicles that have mass market appeal, (too big, too thirsty, quality not great).

Most counties in Europe has some sort of VAT, which is a tax on consumption and is levied across categories of goods, not by source of origin.
 
Most countries in Europe have higher taxes on luxury vehicles of one form or another, whether they are locally made or imported from anywhere. The USA is not at a disadvamtage with most of them, except the USA does not make vehicles that have mass market appeal, (too big, too thirsty, quality not great).

Most counties in Europe has some sort of VAT, which is a tax on consumption and is levied across categories of goods, not by source of origin.

One other barrier to entry in the UK is that not many US cars are available RHD. Tesla and Jeep being the main exceptions.
 
No
They just took semi auto rifles and shotguns and restricted handguns.
To be honest most people were happy to hand them in and get the money for them.
There were lots of guns in sheds, under beds and on top of wardrobes that were never used.
You have to be a member of a gun club and shoot a minimum of 6 times a year for handguns
For rifles and shotguns the same unless they are for hunting and you own, or have permission to shoot on, a property that is at least 40 acres.
They also have to be stored in a gun safe at home.
Self defense is not an approved reason for a civilian unless a licensed security guard.
Thank you for clarifying. I would have never complied with this. Your country, your laws, and your culture. If that works for y'all then great.
 
Not very factual.

Denmark is in the EU, but that luxury tax is Denmark specific. It also applies to the IG for example where the tax is a huge 178%.

A Roadglide is under £28k in the UK.
Did I not say that it was Denmark? Let me quote what I said
Their big twins currently have a 25% VAT tax and a 150% Luxury tax in Denmark for example
 
Most countries have all of those freedoms as well.
I always love the way everyone stands firm on the 2nd amendment but nobody complained too much when the 21st amendment repealed the 18th Amendment.
I wouldn't either.
I disagree completely. Most countries do not have the freedoms that Americans enjoy. Ask Brits or the Germans about what is happening to them if their government doesn't agree with what they post on social media....
 
One point, our constitution doesn’t give us rights, we have those rights and the constitution sets limits on what the government can do or regulate. While words were lifted, it is a rather unique document for its time.
Hence why they are often called "God given rights". The rights do not come from the government but rather are given to use by our creator when we enter this world. This is what makes it particularly frustrating when you have to live under the rule of King Newsom and his 9th circuit court of appeals here in Kalifornia.
 
Hence why they are often called "God given rights". The rights do not come from the government but rather are given to use by our creator when we enter this world. This is what makes it particularly frustrating when you have to live under the rule of King Newsom and his 9th circuit court of appeals here in Kalifornia.
Now if we could just rein in the often abused "general welfare" clause, the regulation of interstate commerce and the 14th amendment which has been so abused as justification for practically anything, we might right the ship.

Oh, and repeal the 17th, the senate needs to go back to representing the states they come from. Might actually get back to the 10th amendment.
 
This isn't only about tariffs, it is about barriers to entry into a specific market.
It is not a barrier to entry; it is across all suppliers. It is even allowable under WTO rules, as it treats all equally.

Now you may want European consumers to have more disposible income to spend on more consumer junk, but European governments believe that taxing the poor regressively is unjustified, so they tax "luxury" goods defined by a invoiced price.
 
I disagree completely. Most countries do not have the freedoms that Americans enjoy. Ask Brits or the Germans about what is happening to them if their government doesn't agree with what they post on social media....
I mentioned free speech as the other 'freedom" that the US "enjoys". Not to debate one county against the other, but I do agree that US libel laws need to be modified in this dawning era of social media. And if social media doesn't direct more of its profits to police itself against libel, bullying and harassment, then it can expect the government to eventually step in and do it for them. For instance, in the old days, I couldn't purchase an ad in the local newspaper and declare "Commodore Is A Scoundrel". But today, I can post it, without repercussion, for thousands of people to see before it gets taken down. I agree with you though - government is definitely not the best arbiter of truth when it comes to social media.

Anyway, maybe massive tariffs on Tik Tok ad revenues and creator payments are next?
 
It is not a barrier to entry; it is across all suppliers. It is even allowable under WTO rules, as it treats all equally.

Now you may want European consumers to have more disposible income to spend on more consumer junk, but European governments believe that taxing the poor regressively is unjustified, so thay tax "luxury" goods defined by a invoiced price.
How much did it cost Apple to conform to the EU ruling to change their charging ports? To open up their app store? There are a lot of ways to close markets beyond simple tariffs.
 
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