This is a neat idea. So, for example, everyone in the PNW could get together with one dealer and get all their Grennies on order at the same time? I'm betting Seattle or Denver will get a dealership. In any event, this should be something brought up to Ineos, I would think. Good idea!
Well, fireworks for the dealer !
In the US, even buying at list often feels like getting ripped off, but in these times paying MSRP seems to be the norm. However, from the dealers’ perspective, who would want to sell cars that can only generate profits if sold above list?
Dealers purchase a car well below MSRP. Using what I know, bicycle industry, you purchase a bike at 250 based on 100 bikes purchased. If you purchase 30 bikes the cost for bike is 375. Then the bike company states you can sell it at 525 or MSRP. The more bikes you order at one time, the lower your purchase cost will be but you must pay for them right away or apply for credit from the bike company to cover your total cost. Those bikes can be delivered through out the year. Using that example, I think there will be plenty of ppl who will buy from a dealer who are not on this forum. The first adopter(us) would be a one time purchase similar to what ceartin bronco dealers did for buyers.
I spent a couple hours yesterday reading on taxes and such per state. I couldn't recommend buying a vehicle in Washington (WA) State and registering it out of state (home state) because WA will charge a sales tax independent of a vehicle registration tax. Example: buy in Seattle and register in Portland you'll pay tax twice, once for sale and once for registration. This was my understanding after some research, please correct me if anyone has more knowledge on the subject.
I'm thinking the it will be different, in that dealers, at least for a year or so, might not stock a lot of inventory (partly because of production) or commit to an allocation.
I completely agree with you on this.
That is the most important part and that is a contract signed for a group buy with the price agreed upon at set price.
Most states have franchise laws that require new car sales to be through independent dealers. In other words, it's illegal for a manufacturer to sell direct to consumers. Something about consumer protection, having someone accountable in the local market, and all that.
OK: this, to me, might be enough for me to forget about the Grenadier! What kind of crap is it that they say they cannot control pricing? Does that mean I cannot order at MSRP? After putting a reservation and then, likely a deposit? Are Ineos not able to select dealers who are willing to stick to the MSRP??? Can they not offer on-line pricing and ordering, with your choice of dealer to have the vehicle delivered?
That statement gave me pause also. Short answer to who does is, the dealer - with respect to the consumer (I'm assuming that's what is meant)
The entire concept of how the US dealer network is set up is to stop manufacturers from controlling pricing
If only your dealer network had excepted the Ineos system, you would be seeing Grenadiers sooner.
The answer to this question has already been given by Greg Clark:
