Table in the back door !?

[PanoramaJJ]

elieve me: never a French car again. Ever! And now maybe you understand why I'm so allergic to this "Made in France" bullshit.

Oh, that are good news! By the way - where is the HAMBACH factory exactly in europe? It´s not in Germany, isn´t it?

 

[Jean Mercier]

Oh, that are good news! By the way - where is the HAMBACH factory exactly in europe? It´s not in Germany, isn´t it?

Hambach is in France, Moselle Department, a little bit South of Saarbrücken, Germany.

 

[Christoph]

Hambach is in France, Moselle Department, a little bit South of Saarbrücken, Germany.

Just behind the border ;-)

 

[PanoramaJJ]

So I buy a CAR produced in FRANCE - so I buy a FRENCH production car .... OH MY GODNESS! No, that was a choke. I love it, and I can´t await till I get it...

 

[klarie]

Seriously.. I do not like prejudice in case of a "Nationality" in make of quality.
There is this bad joke..
A dream..
Italian cuisine, British police and German engineering..
A nightmare: Italian engineering, British cuisine and German police.

As of now. - I can tell Italian shotguns such as the Beretta are finest engineering, There is certain british cuisine that is definitely top.. and German police.. oh I've got some experience .. (but this does not belong here)
The Renault and Peugeot engineers I wonder about. - What Renault produced was mostly crap. Peugeot managed at least to built incredibly reliable diesel engines and old 504 and 404 still operational in Africa.. - But there is no salt and rust .. But e.g,. the 104 was a piece of shite .. cylinder head gaskets went off .. also changing spark plugs need more joints in human arms than available.. . again the 205 was a fine car. So sometimes they can do something proper. But its like rolling dices..
Citroen was quite futuristic and ahead of time. The DS (the goddess) is still an icon.
So no discredit on certain engineering.. but certain brands have definitely - a design to fail.
Look in the north Volvo, - Saab.. Were built like a tank - but nowadays .. Nope.
In Germany first series of Golf.. rust.. / cheating exhaust.. - Some Opel .. the camshaft.. - Brakes.. lighting,.. so any of these have certain design and tech failures.
Even Mercedes Benz . and the moose. - Also changing a headlight on an A class old series is a challenge you have to do it from the front fenders so if lucky tyres to far right or far left.. or wheels to be removed to access.
Failed car designs is not a topic just occupied by French car makers.

 

[emax]

No, that was a choke.

I thought it was a joke. But you may be right.

 

[emax]

What Renault produced was mostly crap. Peugeot managed at least to built incredibly reliable diesel engines and old 504 and 404 still operational in Africa..

That's what I've been preaching since 1871.

 

[emax]

There is a difference between bad quality (e.g. first and second series of Golf) and bad construction.

The R6 and many other cars from there are a nightmare when it comes to repairs. This also applies to the Citroen DS, the "final enemy" of every mechanic. Excellent exterior and interior design, and a trend-setting suspension.

But woe betide you if you had to repair it ... And the same goes for the GS.

This has nothing to do with prejudicing, am talking from experience.

And the factory where the Grenadier is assembled is still a Mercedes outcome.

 

[Shopkeep]

This thread is now way off topic but in defence of French cars I had a Renault Sport Megane RS250 which is probably the most fun car I have ever owned, previous car was an E92 M3 and I would go the Renault Sport over that any day. Only issue I had was the clutch linkage failed once but that was quickly fixed (not by me but the dealer under warranty).
Also had a Mercedes GLC250d made in Sindelfingen that failed the day I drove it out of the dealership, I was not a happy chap that day.

 

[DenisM]

So...to wrap up... and get back on topic.....those with the Grenadier table option will be able to use it as a bench on which to repair small parts from their favourite French vehicle!

 

[Tazzieman]

So...to wrap up... and get back on topic.....those with the Grenadier table option will be able to use it as a bench on which to repair small parts from their favourite French vehicle!

Sounds very James May-like

 

[Stu_Barnes]

Assuming that I get the table which I probably will. It most likely will be used for slicing cheese and whichever charcuterie goodies are to hand.

I just hope it won’t rattle. That will get old very quickly.

 

[Tazzieman]

Assuming that I get the table which I probably will. It most likely will be used for slicing cheese and whichever charcuterie goodies are to hand.

So not butchering freshly killed prey? If so, you will need the one with the blood groove

 

[LC0013]

Table set up looks pretty good and might be handy. Certainly covers up any bends in the little door storage cover!

 

[ADVAW8S]

If you are looking for interesting idea, look at this a guy name Fish13. On the new defender, he removed the safety triangle and put in a set of electrical plugs and an inverter behind the wall. Not bad idea if you are looking to maximize space.

 

[bakepl]

These guys have been around in Australia for a little while, good quality gear https://www.kaon.com.au/camping-tou...95nKvzbbMv9VWnZ2UXwkhCJwBORN2d7BoCaVEQAvD_BwE

Kaon aren’t looking at I.Gs at present, need more people making enquiries with them to raise their interest....