Americas Software Update for ADAS etc. coming in 60 days for NA.

[nuclearmonkey]

I might have mentioned this on here- and I am simply mentioning this because it might help someone. I know there have been some issues with the fuel & warning. Ours comes on when it's 1/4 tank - and when I tell you it's exactly accurate, let me tell you, it's actually a potential problem. The thing goes orange when it hits 1/4 tank.

A month ago, family flew in & I had to pick up. ~90-100mi away, about a 90min drive (probably could do it less with a sportscar...) I forget how close we were to home, say about half, give or take ... someone else in the truck was sure we'd be fine to get home, but I didn't want to chance it. Brand new vehicle, it was my first time driving it when the light came on, I'm relatively far from home, not chancing it. Took me about 5+ more minutes to find a suitable exit, and then the gas station we wanted to use, was like way the hell down that exit-road, 5+ mins it seemed like.

I took pictures of the fuel purchase. According to the math I knocked up, I had precisely 4.663 gallons of fuel remaining. Which is almost precisely 20% of the total fuel-tank capacity (23.7 Gallons, which is a very small amount below 90 Liters) - and for my personal situation, I would have had about ~84 MTE @ 18mpg ... which, would I have gotten home? Just about certainly. But ... who wants to chance it? AND - *especially* with a brand-new, precision-turned, turbocharged BMW engine, I don't want to be sucking up the gunk from the bottom of the tank. ANYWAY, I digress.

So -it seems to me, the machine knows to come on - turn the meter orange- at *exactly* 25% of fuel capacity, 1/4 tank, and in my case, it was not very difficult to go from 25% to 20% real quick.

Just throwing this out there in case it helps anyone, TIFWIW, as always, YMMV (both Literally & Figuratively here, lol...)

Interesting… I put fuel in at 3/4 tank yesterday so I can avoid the 1/2 tank glowing orange fuel warning. Took just over 8 gallons. I really wish the factory tank was 32 gallons.

 

[bikesandguitars]

The fuel warning is obviously set as it is to warn when your off-road adventure better include long-range plans for fueling up. It's very, very obviously not meant to warn you if you need to stop at one of the six-dozen fuel stations between your home and the airport.

As for the ADAS overspeed click sand the general nanny state that new cars are currently suffering, I have discovered that the ADAS is a very minor inconvenience compared to the new Toyota LTA (Lane Tracking Assist) that came on my '24 Tacoma TRD Pro. Toyota's LTA is set somewhere between "Tesla self-driving" and "Help! I'm being car-jacked!" It literally - I'm not exaggeraging - rips the steering wheel from your hands to "forcefully correct" your place on the road. It is the most maddening feature I've ever encountered on an automobile. And, just like the Ineos ADA, it is not permanently defeatable. It resets with every stop. To make matters worse, it's also not reliably turned off. There seems to be some extra setting that I am just not figuring out. I'm on the verge of getting rid of the Tacoma because of it.

The LTA is downright dangerous on icy roads. I live in the mountains of Colorado. (It is currently -4 Farenheit. ) Yesterday, I absent mindedly swerved out of my lane to avoid an icy patch that had blown over with crusty snow. I forgot the LTA hann't been turned off. The Tacoma wasn't having it and steered me back on to the ice. If you're not familiar with driving on ice, sudden corrections in steering are never advised. Sure enough, my back end changed direction and the Tacoma's traction control violently saved me from ending up off the road. Not a pleasant driving experience. I'll take a few audible clicks any day of the week.

 

[Grendel]

I just want my car/truck to leave me alone and let me drive how I want to. Seems most everyone else is heading towards wanting the car/truck to drive for them. I think I am a dinosaur.

 

[FlyersFan76]

Did they clearly state how well it would work and the insistent alarms or did they just assume their American consumers, most who had never heard of ADAS, would investigate it like shaggy?

I do not think that there is one manufacturer that has any system that works well, nor would anyone really notice until they owned the vehicle.

LR automatic high beams too not sensitive enough and do not dim.

Ford rear view mirror dims so much it is unusable.

Cadillac rear parking sensors so sensitive that backing into the garage requires you to go really really slow or the truck will stop hard.

If Ineos made the seats vibrate instead of a loud bong like some manufactures do then this ADAS issue would probably not matter as much if at all.

 

[anand]

Cadillac rear parking sensors so sensitive that backing into the garage requires you to go really really slow or the truck will stop hard.

Subaru has the same issue with their RAB system; unless you are reversing while on the brake (our driveway is uphill, so that's unique) it will jam on the brakes about 2ft from our trash bin (she parks her Forester within about 3" of the trash bin to fit in the driveway)

 

[mcdoogs]

The ADAS isn't broken, isn't causing harm and isn't dangerous it's just annoying in the United States because it isn't required.

I agree, it does what it says it does on the tin. I do think a case could be made that from the UX (user experience) context though it is broken.

I mean, professionally if I built and released a feature that my users hated as much as people seem to hate ADAS I'd consider it, if not broken, then certainly in need of immediate re-design.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Subaru has the same issue with their RAB system; unless you are reversing while on the brake (our driveway is uphill, so that's unique) it will jam on the brakes about 2ft from our trash bin (she parks her Forester within about 3" of the trash bin to fit in the driveway)

Ah uphill, so that’s why I never experienced intrusive behavior from our Subaru’s rab. Can you blame them though? What proportion of owners would back into a parking spot without riding the brakes?

 

[HereinDaRockies]

I agree, it does what it says it does on the tin. I do think a case could be made that from the UX (user experience) context though it is broken.

I mean, professionally if I built and released a feature that my users hated as much as people seem to hate ADAS I'd consider it, if not broken, then certainly in need of immediate re-design.

Ineos is an antiquated oil & gas company .. they don’t know this sht at all, and it shows

 

[PDX_Keith]

ADAS was openly stated on the MY24 brochure and pamphlets that were available prior to the ordering books opening in 2023

I agree that ADAS distracts drivers, but a court will just hear "my car beeps when I break the speed limit". Maybe if you argued that it gets the speed limit wrong and encourages unsafe driving...

If you genuinely consider the car unsafe then I guess you could file a report with NHTSA: https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2024/INEOS/GRENADIER . You could also just disable ADAS and tape over the warning lights (not ideal I know).

I was just stirring the pot, in jest. People get far too worked up about this stuff.

 

[Jiman01]

The fuel warning is obviously set as it is to warn when your off-road adventure better include long-range plans for fueling up. It's very, very obviously not meant to warn you if you need to stop at one of the six-dozen fuel stations between your home and the airport.

As for the ADAS overspeed click sand the general nanny state that new cars are currently suffering, I have discovered that the ADAS is a very minor inconvenience compared to the new Toyota LTA (Lane Tracking Assist) that came on my '24 Tacoma TRD Pro. Toyota's LTA is set somewhere between "Tesla self-driving" and "Help! I'm being car-jacked!" It literally - I'm not exaggeraging - rips the steering wheel from your hands to "forcefully correct" your place on the road. It is the most maddening feature I've ever encountered on an automobile. And, just like the Ineos ADA, it is not permanently defeatable. It resets with every stop. To make matters worse, it's also not reliably turned off. There seems to be some extra setting that I am just not figuring out. I'm on the verge of getting rid of the Tacoma because of it.

The LTA is downright dangerous on icy roads. I live in the mountains of Colorado. (It is currently -4 Farenheit. ) Yesterday, I absent mindedly swerved out of my lane to avoid an icy patch that had blown over with crusty snow. I forgot the LTA hann't been turned off. The Tacoma wasn't having it and steered me back on to the ice. If you're not familiar with driving on ice, sudden corrections in steering are never advised. Sure enough, my back end changed direction and the Tacoma's traction control violently saved me from ending up off the road. Not a pleasant driving experience. I'll take a few audible clicks any day of the week.

Damn!! You win…that sounds horrible. What is up with Toyota these days?