Rant

[Howard]

Hopefully somebody who works for Ineos Grenadier UK reads this forum because they certainly do not read or respond to my emails .

Why do we have Adas on the UK spec trucks. It is really annoying and apparently not a legal requirement in the uk. It's a real Nanny wagen. If I had lived with a Grenadier for a week with all the bongs before buying my truck I wouldn't have placed an order. It's not a 4x4 simple go anywhere truck but an electronic nightmare waiting to go wrong. And if the engine fails you have to get under the truck to wind a bolt in to the transfer box to more it. Has anybody at Ineos been off road when you get an engine failure or are they play day warriors?

What is wrong with designing a transfer box you just put in to neutral ?
why why why do I need to be told my back door is not properly shut! If I slam it any harder the glass will smash .I've had the truck three weeks and I am going out to my workshop to adjust the rear doors yet again.
If I don't close my driver's door properly the gear box goes into park mode as I drive off. How stupid is that. How can you take your truck way off track with any confidence knowing a stupid Electrical error could bring you to a standstill.
Sorry guys I needed a rant .

 

[Logsplitter]

Put it in off road mode and you can drive with door open and the seatbelt off. And no bonging noises. It is in the manual

 

[anand]

Welcome to common safety features (and in some places requirements) of 2025, none of the "annoying nannies" the Grenadier has are unique to it, nor do they alter the vehicle during its intended purpose (off road vehicle travel).

How often have you experienced an engine failure that requires the transfer box to be placed into neutral? Having laid on the ground to put the transfer box into neutral myself, it literally takes moments

If you experience an engine failure, as with any other sort of recovery, I'm a huge advocate of the Camel Trophy mentality of performing the recovery... Stop, make a cup of tea, talk it over with the mates, then start the action.

 

[DoubleDoom]

Why do we have Adas on the UK spec trucks. It is really annoying and apparently not a legal requirement in the uk. It's a real Nanny wagen. If I had lived with a Grenadier for a week with all the bongs before buying my truck I wouldn't have placed an order. It's not a 4x4 simple go anywhere truck but an electronic nightmare waiting to go wrong. And if the engine fails you have to get under the truck to wind a bolt in to the transfer box to more it. Has anybody at Ineos been off road when you get an engine failure or are they play day warriors?

Ineos know its not required in the UK as they put the MY23 back on sale on again once they realised that the UK never ratified the EU changes.
However, I believe all manufacturers have chosen to align UK spec cars with EU requirements.

I test drove an MY23. I didn't know what bongs were coming. However, I don't let them get to me. The bongs and clicks now get the wife treatment and I can filter them out.

 

[bigleonski]

At least you got the theead title right.

 

[DaveB]

Hopefully somebody who works for Ineos Grenadier UK reads this forum because they certainly do not read or respond to my emails .

Why do we have Adas on the UK spec trucks. It is really annoying and apparently not a legal requirement in the uk. It's a real Nanny wagen. If I had lived with a Grenadier for a week with all the bongs before buying my truck I wouldn't have placed an order. It's not a 4x4 simple go anywhere truck but an electronic nightmare waiting to go wrong. And if the engine fails you have to get under the truck to wind a bolt in to the transfer box to more it. Has anybody at Ineos been off road when you get an engine failure or are they play day warriors?

What is wrong with designing a transfer box you just put in to neutral ?
why why why do I need to be told my back door is not properly shut! If I slam it any harder the glass will smash .I've had the truck three weeks and I am going out to my workshop to adjust the rear doors yet again.
If I don't close my driver's door properly the gear box goes into park mode as I drive off. How stupid is that. How can you take your truck way off track with any confidence knowing a stupid Electrical error could bring you to a standstill.
Sorry guys I needed a rant .

Tell them you want the rear door mechanism replaced, I did, they did, not a sound for over a year.

I agree totally with the ADAS thing and glad Ineos Australia has said no to it.

 

[Znarfgh]

There are a number of things that annoy me about the IG but nothing that makes me regret my purchase decision.

They gave me a robust and capable off-road vehicle with good road manners and has not left me stranded yet. One vehicle replaced two in my stable - I used to have an off-roader and a tow vehicle.

Yes, there are some annoying things but if the IG continues to get me there and back, I'm happy.

 

[Tazzieman]

What was your previous 4x4?

 

[emax]

However, I believe all manufacturers have chosen to align UK spec cars with EU requirements.

Of course they do.

I'm not happy about it, but it's much easier to sell ONE configuration with ONE software version than to design, build, test, and maintain two of them.

 

[DoubleDoom]

Of course they do.

I'm not happy about it, but it's much easier to sell ONE configuration with ONE software version than to design, build, test, and maintain two of them.

I agree. And it was always a point missed about Brexit that manufacturers want a Europe-wide product and not one for each country. However, there is a counterargument that it is just a software toggle that could be set to UK-spec vehicles, seeing as RHD creates different requirements and is catered for. Then again, software is not an Ineos strong point. It shouldn't be difficult but the sales volumes in the UK probably don't justify the cost of a software adjustment in the same way the US is getting it.

I do like the way BMW/Mini have dealt with it. Press and hold a button on the steering wheel for a few seconds, and it turns off their already quiet chimes.

 

[Tinerfeño]

Many of these features should be (and possibly are) configurable in the body control module.

Unfortunately so far the access to it is very limited. Has anybody tried to use BMW software?

 

[landmannnn]

Many of these features should be (and possibly are) configurable in the body control module.

Unfortunately so far the access to it is very limited. Has anybody tried to use BMW software?

Bosch Grade X is required to interrogate the systems.

 

[anand]

Bosch Grade X is required to interrogate the systems.

Based on the time I've spent looking over shoulders, it also requires an active internet connection and Ineos-specific log in

 

[Zimm]

You’re just soooooooooo 2024… and early 2024 at that.