Racechip for Ineos

[K2grenadier]

Just came across an interesting product from Racechip out of Europe. Their GTS 5 product has a version for the Grenadier. I appears as if it does not remap / overwrite your engine software but houses the software in a separate unit. With the optional phone app you can change drive modes from race to eco (not sure if you can do this while driving.... that might make me nervous) . Adds roughly 50hp and 50 LB ft of torque and most interesting up to 20% increase in MPG. Does anyone have experience with this or any other similar products.

https://www.racechip.us/shop/ineos/grenadier-from-2022/3-0-ti-4x4-2998ccm-280hp-210kw-329lb-ft.html

 

[anand]

Racechip, that's a name I haven't heard mentioned by someone in the US in many years...

I have to at their claim of 20% in fuel economy increase, especially from a piggyback though, I would be impressed to see a 5-7% gain, assuming light highway driving only. There's no reason changing maps can't happen while driving, especially with a piggyback, as it isn't actually a remap in anyway, all it is doing is altering the signals reaching the factory DME to trick it into doing what it wants (for example, most of these systems showing lower boost levels to the DME to get it to increase boost). The 50hp/50lb-ft seems definitely quite doable, and perhaps even quite mild of an increase; Burger Motorsports JB4 piggyback is up to 100HP on an otherwise stock B58 (not listed for the Ineos at this time)

For what it's worth, even with actual remaps, depending on the company and their map switching method, map changes even under full throttle are possible (I did lots of testing on this ~15-18 years ago with GIAC)

 

[DaBull]

Racechip, that's a name I haven't heard mentioned by someone in the US in many years...

I have to at their claim of 20% in fuel economy increase, especially from a piggyback though, I would be impressed to see a 5-7% gain, assuming light highway driving only. There's no reason changing maps can't happen while driving, especially with a piggyback, as it isn't actually a remap in anyway, all it is doing is altering the signals reaching the factory DME to trick it into doing what it wants (for example, most of these systems showing lower boost levels to the DME to get it to increase boost). The 50hp/50lb-ft seems definitely quite doable, and perhaps even quite mild of an increase; Burger Motorsports JB4 piggyback is up to 100HP on an otherwise stock B58 (not listed for the Ineos at this time)

For what it's worth, even with actual remaps, depending on the company and their map switching method, map changes even under full throttle are possible (I did lots of testing on this ~15-18 years ago with GIAC)

Hi anand, Now we just need someone to come out with a Racechip to remap the transmission so we can easily increase the torque.
DaBull

 

[adamrochlin]

Purchased and installed the race chip on my Grenadier 2-months ago. Easy quick installation. I do feel the car drives smoother and less bogged-down trucky on acceleration. Also seems like I'm filling the gas tank less often, but maybe it's all in my head. Overall I think it drives better and smoother.

 

[LC0013]

Hi anand, Now we just need someone to come out with a Racechip to remap the transmission so we can easily increase the torque.
DaBull

I thought the transmissions ability to handle more horsepower and torque was a hindrance to racechip type installations.

 

[anand]

I thought the transmissions ability to handle more horsepower and torque was a hindrance to racechip type installations.

Granted with a piggyback like the RaceChip you don't have full ECU/DME control, but with careful programming (especially with matching TCU calibration) you can put down a lot of power in applications that have transmissions that aren't "rated" to that power level... We did it for years with the earlier Audi/VW Tiptronic transmissions (and early DSGs).

Would it mean that power is useful or available in your average off road setting? Not at all, but then again, neither is the power gained from any sort of piggyback/flash/tune

 

[Bluesurf]

I got an advert for one today: Boost to 347HP and 382Lb/Ft on Sale for $381.00

TDI Tuning | Ineos Grenadier CRTD4 MULTI Channel With RPM Petrol Tuning Box Chip

An innovator in custom tuning systems for a vast variety of vehicles. Get up to 40% power and 20% MPG. With over 15 years of experience in the tuning industry.

tdi-tuning.com

 

[LC0013]

Like to hear how that tuning works out.

 

[Bluesurf]

These Tuning boxes don't appear to any real differences.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_sIRoPgFFI&t=1183s

 

[Bluesurf]

The GTS RaceChip. What do you guys think of this race chip? "UK: Auto-Top is an honest and pure car filming and testing company." The guy here said it you get an additional 88 bhp. This unit looks very well done. This engine is a B58 as mentioned in the comments. "MHD is one of the best tunes you can get for the B58 imo." (In My Opinion) This morning I wrote to AgileOffRoad on their website to get us a video on the new IOBOX Tuner. I already bought the IOBOX Throttle Controller, However the Tuner is the real power. (made in Germany)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1sDTAiREOE

Performance chips – Chip tuning by RaceChip for Ineos Grenadier 3.0 Ti 4x4 (210KW) | RaceChip

Chip tuning from RaceChip for your Ineos Grenadier 3.0 Ti 4x4 (210KW). Experience the true potential and power of your INEOS.

www.racechip.us

I wrote to AgileOffRoad on their website to get us a video on the new IOBOX Tuner. I already bought the IOBOX Throttle Controller, However the Tuner gives the real power.

 

[Mike Morrison]

Would be interesting to know what Buzz Special Vehicles have done to increase power and torque on their Rally Raid Grenadier.

 

[RyanT]

Would be interesting to know what Buzz Special Vehicles have done to increase power and torque on their Rally Raid Grenadier.

Hey Mike,

We haven’t done anything yet. Power figures are still stock. We are aware there was an online article stating we had increased the power and torque but we have no idea where they came up with that.

We did send the ECU off to a BMW specialist here in the UK and they weren’t able to get into it. Whilst the ECU is the same Bosch unit used by BMW, the firmware is specific to INEOS. We are exploring some other avenues with the stock ECU’s.

 

[Bluesurf]

I bought both of these items, the Tuner arrived last week. Both are quality made in Germany.

IOPEDAL Throttle Tuner For INEOS Grenadier by Agile Offroad - Agile Offroad

IOPedal Throttle Tuner for the INEOS Grenadier by Agile Offroad. Tailor the throttle performance of your Grenadier and discover what is possible.

agileoffroad.com

IOBOX Performance Tuner for INEOS Grenadier by Agile Offroad - Agile Offroad

IOBOX Performance Tuner for INEOS Grenadier by Agile Offroad. Tailor the throttle performance of your Grenadier and discover what is possible.

agileoffroad.com

 

[Guardian]

I bought both of these items, the Tuner arrived last week. Both are quality made in Germany.

IOPEDAL Throttle Tuner For INEOS Grenadier by Agile Offroad - Agile Offroad

IOPedal Throttle Tuner for the INEOS Grenadier by Agile Offroad. Tailor the throttle performance of your Grenadier and discover what is possible.

agileoffroad.com

IOBOX Performance Tuner for INEOS Grenadier by Agile Offroad - Agile Offroad

IOBOX Performance Tuner for INEOS Grenadier by Agile Offroad. Tailor the throttle performance of your Grenadier and discover what is possible.

agileoffroad.com

Did you install them yet? Wondering what the sensitivity is like with the pedal tuner combined with the engine tuner.

 

[Bluesurf]

Did you install them yet? Wondering what the sensitivity is like with the pedal tuner combined with the engine tuner.

As soon as the car is delivered. Nov.24

 

[Dual Grenny Guy]

As soon as the car is delivered. Nov.24

Dayum you worse than me!! Buying items before you even got the vehicle. Now that’s a mind already made up. LOVE IT!! I was debating on buying both of these products, but was honestly waiting for someone who already installed them to say how they work. Please post on here when you have the Grenadier and have installed these bad boys to let us know how they did.

 

[Dual Grenny Guy]

Has anyone bought and installed the TDI tuning kit mentioned above? If so, can you give us your thoughts (ease of install, power increase etc)? Thanks…..

 

[Dok]

https://www.chiptuning.com/us/ineos...4x4-geb-286hp-210kw-2998ccm/powercontrol.html

Trying to figure out if it worth it for the diesel version

 

[MrMike]

https://www.chiptuning.com/us/ineos...4x4-geb-286hp-210kw-2998ccm/powercontrol.html

Trying to figure out if it worth it for the diesel version


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I have

 

[Dok]

I have

And happy with it? Do you have a real difference? Quite a bunch of $ (not to mention compared to the one provided through agile offroad)