Quatermaster cab chassis

[MrMike]

That was really my point - that the 70-series is a better match for mining use in Australia than the QM. We don't get the 70 here, so I don't know much about the engine options. I drove a 70 with the 4.5 V8 for 5 weeks back in 2007 - but its my only experience with a 70. I'm also not familiar with your other commercial options (Mahindra, etc.) - I was just expressing doubt that the QM would find a home in the mines of Australia when there are cheaper options that have good reliability and better payload. It seems like the QM will be popular with the overland / touring crowd, many of whom will prefer it to the "old-school" 70-series.

Absolutely, they will have to come out with a "no frills" model to even be considered by any mining company.

 

[Jeremy996]

Absolutely, they will have to come out with a "no frills" model to even be considered by any mining company.

Which will come eventually, once the high margin vehicles are harder to sell. Until then Ineos Automotive need the margin to pay for the setup of this and any new models; as the various markets get saturated, they will look to other niches, of which a stripped out base model is probably the least profitable, but will at least keeps the lines running.

 

[NQ94]

QM in Australian mining I would doubt that it would be used due to several key issues. Parts and diagnostic equipment availability and pay load lack of gvm increases. This could change once the brand is more established and has more non OEM support.
Contrary to what people say about Landcruisers there are many mines and rental fleets taking delivery of V8 LC while still available. These companies have been receiving LC in smaller numbers because of standing orders while there has been a public shortage. Some large miners and contractors in the coal sector will only use LC70 for maintenance, dewatering, dragline and survey teams and many of these are operating at full increased gvm daily and are used to do tasks outside of what would considered normal. Heavier axles, clutches and suspension , the gearing is lower and combined with live axle ground clearance these attributes make the LC79s a good off road work vehicle over the mostly IFS offerings in Australia.

I am sure back in 1958 when Thiess Constructions imported the first Toyota Landcruisers into Australia nobody wanted to use inferior Japanese product compared to the old reliable Landrovers.
They used them for the Snowy Mountain Scheme power station they were building and it says the next major customer was Mt Newman Mining in Western Australia.
The wheels turn - no pun intended.

Thiess history is and how they started is interesting. Some of the reason why Toyota was looked down upon was the sentiments left over from WWII and this was still used as a quiet barrier up until the 1980's for various company and government contracts. One of the main reasons for bringing in the Toyota was because of issues with the Land Rover. The first LC did have issues but Toyota rectified and improved the vehicle quicker then what Land Rover was willing to do. Theiss was also selling Toyota trucks and was the sole importer of Toyota commercial vehicle into roughly the late 80's early 90's when the commercial vehicles become a part of Toyota Australia.

 

[DaveB]

I notice they have added the cab/chassis to the Australian brochure.

 

[TheDocAUS]

Cannot wait to see what Norweld or a similar shop does for a rear canopy on the Grenadier Chassis Cab. Like this:

Or MITS Alloy (which has US dealers)

View: https://youtu.be/FoJXY7EaYOA

 

[MrMike]

Cannot wait to see what Norweld or a similar shop does for a rear canopy on the Grenadier Chassis Cab. Like this:
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Or MITS Alloy (which has US dealers)

View: https://youtu.be/FoJXY7EaYOA

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I'd like to see a Zone RV composite canopy on a Quartermaster, they are arguably one of the most space saving canopies on the market. 222kgs makes it one of the lightest

 

[DenisM]

Back in 2021 Trayon campers published the following... the Quartermaster cab-chassis would be ideal ...

2021 Ineos Grenadier 4×4 - Why Australia Needs It

The Ineos Grenadier is a new 4X4 set to fill a void in the market. A simple, durable, off-road vehicle for hard work or hard play without the fluff.

www.trayon.com

I don't have a shed large enough.... I no longer have a shed.. ... but occasionally I suffer 'shed envy'.

 

[Krabby]

Cannot wait to see what Norweld or a similar shop does for a rear canopy on the Grenadier Chassis Cab. Like this:
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Or MITS Alloy (which has US dealers)

View: https://youtu.be/FoJXY7EaYOA

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I have no use for a setup like this - but man those are awesome looking rigs. Whatever QM setup they create will be amazing.

 

[ADVAW8S]

I'd like to see a Zone RV composite canopy on a Quartermaster, they are arguably one of the most space saving canopies on the market. 222kgs makes it one of the lightest

When zone launched their canopy, I was please let it come to America. Then QM was announced and I was let us order a QM with a canopy of our choice.

 

[Pat-Ard]

And now change the cab to a one or one and a half... Last one with narrow suicide doors on the passenger side...

 

[NQ94]

Quartermaster Crew Cab with the most popular fit out for a dual cab in Australia. Borrowed image from IG Owners AU FB page.
My own set up would have two spare tyres on the head board and no rear under tray tool boxes or may have field service tool boxes on the tray with 2 spare between them not a full canopy.

 

[dreamalaska]

Well as many of you in the USA and Canada received, Ineos announced in an email today “Quartermaster is coming”. So I guess regardless of the additional 25% US import tariff on pickup trucks (aka the “chicken” tax) it’s a go. Here’s a screenshot of my email:

 

[FlyersFan76]

Since Magna is a partner and in Canada, I am sure they will find a way to get around the chicken tax.

 

[TheDocAUS]

Article on the new Cab Chassis in Australia, targeting the Toyota 70 series.

Dealer confirmed to me yesterday some CCs are on the boat to Australia right now, but that trip can take up to 2 months.

MSN

 

[DaveB]

OKay. Taking into account the cab/chassis isn't available yet and hasn't gone through certification and testing these figures are unofficial!!!. Petrol weighs 2446 and diesel weighs 2527. So removing the tub and associated stuff saves 197 kg and 191 kg respectively. That is with 90% fuel and all other fluids at 100% (including adblue). So that gives you 1104 kg and 1023 kg for tray and canopy etc

 

[TheDocAUS]

Despite what the AU website says you can buy the QM Cab Chassis (QMCC) in Australia now. You must go to the dealer. The dealer buys the car, the tray is made by NORWELD and then delivered via the dealer. Confirmed by Alex Collo at Purnell Adventure this morning. The QMCC needs the tray to be roadworthy.

Purnell has a cab chassis at the dealer and a couple of others for clients being processed.

QMCC has only two rooftop outlets, if you select the high power aux option. Alex confirmed this as well. It would have been nice to offer some wire ends or Anderson plugs for the tray or canopy, but it is easy to run them off the any spare busbars stud or the battery.

 

[ADVAW8S]

Couple ppl on the Aussie Facebook site have started getting deliveries of the can chassis with Norweld tray. Looks super nice. As Ronny says, itatches up perfectly.

 

[Chrism3513]

Shame about the rear bumper on the cab chassis.
It looks like it’s a non removable part as the chassis and tow bar are located / fitted within or underneath it. Happy to be corrected here.
Most other utes have higher chassis rails and a tow bar that drops down, it looks like the quartermaster has the whole rear crossmember within the rear bumper bar. Works on the wagon and the tub variants but not so much on the cab chassis if you want to mount a custom tray which will sit up higher. Just looks bad and also will impede departure angle
I was ready to start the process of getting one. Now not so sure. On the plus side I think I have convinced myself to get a Grenadier regardless so just weighing up whether to go the wagon variant and sacrifice extra space or go the Ute and always be annoyed by the rear bumper.

 

[Chrism3513]

Quartermaster Crew Cab with the most popular fit out for a dual cab in Australia. Borrowed image from IG Owners AU FB page.
My own set up would have two spare tyres on the head board and no rear under tray tool boxes or may have field service tool boxes on the tray with 2 spare between them not a full canopy.



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I’m intrigued about this one as the rear end looks different to the images I posted above. Does anyone have any more Images of this vehicle?

 

[TheDocAUS]

Shame about the rear bumper on the cab chassis.
It looks like it’s a non removable part as the chassis and tow bar are located / fitted within or underneath it. Happy to be corrected here.
Most other utes have higher chassis rails and a tow bar that drops down, it looks like the quartermaster has the whole rear crossmember within the rear bumper bar. Works on the wagon and the tub variants but not so much on the cab chassis if you want to mount a custom tray which will sit up higher. Just looks bad and also will impede departure angle
I was ready to start the process of getting one. Now not so sure. On the plus side I think I have convinced myself to get a Grenadier regardless so just weighing up whether to go the wagon variant and sacrifice extra space or go the Ute and always be annoyed by the rear bumper.

This is what the rear of a AU spec cab chassis looks like from the factory. That looks close to what the wagon looks like (from rear bumper down), but departure angle will probably be different due to longer wheel base.

This video gives various stages of the the Norweld tray fit out. It seems other Norweld trays and canopies can be fitted. But ask your dealer or Norweld.

View: https://youtu.be/u8VhWeDzbQ8