On the Fence About Buying

[Jack Burton]

I have experience with a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4x4 and 2006 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 and a bit of off roading in the USA. Mostly farm applications where there is just a field, technically there’s no road. So I have a few years left in Dubai and really want to trade in a BMW 330 before major maintenance on its 9th birthday. I always kick myself in the arse for not buying the last year of the original Defender 110 in 2016. I always loved that vehicle. I was frugal at the time and opted for a car that was sensible for where I now live. I like to go off-roading a few times a year but that’s easily accomplished here with a rental vehicle or friend.

Incredible is the engine and transmission are very similar to my 330 so it works very well and familiar.

Nine years on I find myself at a crossroads. I desperately want to offload my BMW and get something useful for the next stage. The Adamas Motor company are offering 20% down, 2 years 0% interest and 3 years 2.7% interest financing on a 2023, maybe 2024 wagon. My shelf life for working here is about 5 years before retirement then I want to go back to Spain and take up light farming again in my second career.

My problem is I can just but a new vehicle in Spain in 5 years and sell the maintenance intensive BMW now and buy a cheap Toyota.or I can buy a Grenadier and export it for relatively low cost after the payments are done and I’m ready to leave the UAE.

My ask of the forum is to ‘sell me the 2024/2025 Grenadier”

 

[UncleBuck]

I doubt anything I can say is going to 'sell' you on the wagon.

It sounds like you already drove one and have realized it is what you want.

The wagon already sold itself. So, if you are a few years away from retiring, why not get one and enjoy it.

 

[AngusMacG]

All I would say is buy one and read the forum for any questions you may have.

 

[Jack Burton]

I’m a methodical person. The hot desert can ruin a car in 5 years. Is it not better to buy a vehicle I will get utilitarian value from and buy a 2029 Grenadier in Spain? I won’t have the import costs. Look I am already sold on the idea but looking for some justification for the missus.

 

[Bruce B]

Looking for help in rationalizing a purchase of a relatively unknown, somewhat risky, incredibly cool vehicle? Why not post the question in the forum dedicated to the vehicle and frequented by fans of the brand???
Be careful as you may end up with several!
All kidding aside, I have one on order and I have asked myself just how risky this all is. What happens if Ineos looses interest in the Grenadier? Will I survive a shutdown of the company? That is the worst case scenario. As far as the design and execution, it is already a well understood vehicle with some “annoying-to-some-features”. I have no doubt that anyone who can afford one of these and who is honest with themselves about the reality of this designs abilities , will find a lot to love.
Just be honest with yourself and you will make the right decision

 

[Jack Burton]

I was walking out of my test drive and a current owner ninth a baby seat in the back approached me and we had a 5 minute conversation and he had nothing but praise. Granted where I live cars are typically traded in every 4 to 5 years due to affluence and local maintenance/NCT/MOT rules.

The vehicle is great. No doubt about that. I’m on the fence about waiting a few years or getting one now. It’s silly I know. I want to buy one right hand drive for my farm in Ireland and getting one now for my limited time in the UAE and eventually exporting that to Spain. That is apparently easy.

 

[Jack Burton]

I spend 90 days in Ireland and 90 days in Spain each year and 185 abroad for taxes. I plan to spend the remaining days of my life in Spain and Ireland but for the next 5 years in the sandbox. I am just looking for affirmations to buy my left hand drive grenadier now instead of an equivalent Toyota (if there is one).

 

[Jack Burton]

For for clarification I want to get the left hand drive wagon now and eventually export it to Spain and in about 4-5 years get a right hand drive Quartermaster for Ireland.

 

[Coullabus]

If you haven’t yet driven a Grenadier, get a test drive - if you can honestly say you loved it - then buy it.

If you didn’t love it - don’t buy it. QED.

To be honest, if you hankered after a pre 2016 Defender, then you should probably just buy a Grenadier. It’s everything the Defender could have been. The new Defender may be a brilliant vehicle. But it is a Defender in name, but not in spirit.

So my tip. Buy a Grenadier. You will not be sorry. Just don’t blame me if you feel it was a bum decision!

 

[Jack Burton]

If you haven’t yet driven a Grenadier, get a test drive - if you can honestly say you loved it - then buy it.

If you didn’t love it - don’t buy it. QED.

To be honest, if you hankered after a pre 2016 Defender, then you should probably just buy a Grenadier. It’s everything the Defender could have been. The new Defender may be a brilliant vehicle. But it is a Defender in name, but not in spirit.

So my tip. Buy a Grenadier. You will not be sorry. Just don’t blame me if you feel it was a bum decision!

I test drove one last week. It was great. The dealers here must be a different breed of human though. I spent an hour going through every detail and made him and I connect his phone to test the mission computer before we set off. He was getting fatigued I’d say. I used to be a US Navy pilot and like to do a full shakedown before taking a jet to fly. There were a few software gripes.

 

[Jack Burton]

I joined this forum to get the user experience as a result of an encounter with a current owner with nothing but smiles coming out of the dealership for a service. I’m just a sceptical person. Tell me to good, bad and ugly experiences.

 

[Jack Burton]

If you haven’t yet driven a Grenadier, get a test drive - if you can honestly say you loved it - then buy it.

If you didn’t love it - don’t buy it. QED.

To be honest, if you hankered after a pre 2016 Defender, then you should probably just buy a Grenadier. It’s everything the Defender could have been. The new Defender may be a brilliant vehicle. But it is a Defender in name, but not in spirit.

So my tip. Buy a Grenadier. You will not be sorry. Just don’t blame me if you feel it was a bum decision!

This is a good confirmation so far, thank you.

 

[trobex]

If it is a LHD version, then I would support anyone buying the LHD version.