No roof rack = a different suspension

[YellowLab]

So heard from another member (thanks for the info!) that if you do not order the roof rack at the time of placing the order - the suspension/springs that IG specs for the vehicle is different than if you do. Apparently he was told this at a factory drive event. Has anyone else heard this or can validate?

 

[TheDocAUS]

True. Suspension settings vary depending on accessories chosen. I believe there are six different settings.

Same happens if you order a front winch.

 

[YellowLab]

True. Suspension settings vary depending on accessories chosen. I believe there are six different settings.

Same happens if you order a front winch.

I know the winch requires different springs - but no where on the website does it indicate that for the roof rack. Where did you hear it?

 

[Loc Nar]

Anyone know if the springs are different if you ordered the cross bars? No matter what, Eibach is making some nice after-market performance lift springs kits for the Grenadier.

 

[TheDocAUS]

I know the winch requires different springs - but no where on the website does it indicate that for the roof rack. Where did you hear it?

It is on this forum and the Dealer told me.

 

[Shippa]

It is on this forum and the Dealer told me.

Hi. Do you know if the suspension change is for the 6F roof-rack and the standard 'full length'.

 

[YellowLab]

Hi. Do you know if the suspension change is for the 6F roof-rack and the standard 'full length'.

Sadly - I don't think anyone knows. I'm going to call Ineos tomorrow

 

[YellowLab]

Just called Ineos Automotive in the UK - the rep whom was very knowledgeable confirmed that the springs ARE different if you have ordered the winch. But there is no difference in springs if the only choice is just a roof rack or not. So hopefully that puts this issue to bed....

 

[YellowLab]

Hi. Do you know if the suspension change is for the 6F roof-rack and the standard 'full length'.

With the 6' you do not get any suspension added - just axles and a frame. Roof rack from my call to IG UK confirmed only the winch drives a change NOT the roof rack option

 

[AWo]

I know the winch requires different springs - but no where on the website does it indicate that for the roof rack. Where did you hear it?

Only different springs? Ok, they keep the height, but the shocks must handle the dynamic forces this increased weight generate. There is for sure a range that causes no problems as long as you stay inside. But if the spring rate is increased, the rebound might needs adjusted as well. A spring wich generates too strong rebound forces might help in quicker offroad driving but reduces comfort on normal roads. It also leads to more increased chassis rolling.

AWo

 

[DCPU]

Have a look at this thread ~ see what people actually have fitted, especially if it's backed up by photographic evidence:

Thread 'Coil Springs' https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/coil-springs.12412069/

 

[Tazzieman]

Only different springs? Ok, they keep the height, but the shocks must handle the dynamic forces this increased weight generate. There is for sure a range that causes no problems as long as you stay inside. But if the spring rate is increased, the rebound might needs adjusted as well. A spring wich generates too strong rebound forces might help in quicker offroad driving but reduces comfort on normal roads. It also leads to more increased chassis rolling.

I haven't heard whether they change the shocks when you get the uprated springs. You'd think they would have thought about this.

 

[AWo]

I haven't heard whether they change the shocks when you get the uprated springs. You'd think they would have thought about this.

If the spring rate changes (at a certain delta of course) you need to adjust the damping, as well. However, I assume manufacturers don't care about this, too costly. If you have a custom suspension, the suspension expert will care about this.

AWo

 

[Tazzieman]

Well when we get the shock specs posted , we'll know the answer. Maybe.

 

[DCPU]

Maybe worth looking at part numbers on the shocks?

 

[Tazzieman]

Maybe worth looking at part numbers on the shocks?

Easy enough for the lucky bastards who actually have their cars to inspect!

 

[DaveB]

They asked me for my weight so they could adjust the shocks on the drivers side.
I tricked them and lied about it.

 

[DCPU]

Seems Ineos Customer Services have a different opinion:

 

[YellowLab]

Seems Ineos Customer Services have a different opinion:

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That would be the 4th to 5th varying opinion from Ineos. It’s been a big mystery with the directions - I hope that is reality

 

[DCPU]

Well yes, getting any useful information is like pulling teeth. This is an earlier reply and I've asked for details of this "calibration":