New prices update (09 Nov 2022)

[Max]

Drivetrain doesn't concern me. Less to go wrong with the EVs probably. And to be honest, is anyone who's ordered a grenadier thrilled it's got a bmw powerplant?

It is interesting not to be concerned with the drivetrain and as far as the powerplant the heart and soul of the vehicle, you have to research what you feel and like...diesel engine? Make? fuel economy? tried and proven?
My CHOICE is the same as yours, we have the privilege of choice, and mine at my age is miles away from yours but we have it...happy motoring

 

[ECrider]

Pam was the one to look at.

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is that a TransPam?

and no, not a reference to today's mixed up world but more a ref to the motor.

 

[ADVAW8S]

That's not accurate since Ineos could have released pricing info already and made a commitment to early adopters to honor that price. That's the expectation in this market. Otherwise there's no incentive to wait

I have to say that if you were looking at EV that are both bigger than the Ineos, the ineos may not be the right fit. Also, as American, we have no idea what the price would be since it was never released. All there has been speculation. We may get price increase but based on Greg's comments from the US update, thise early adopters may get the vehicle at with no dealer mark ups.

 

[Stu_Barnes]

I have to say that if you were looking at EV that are both bigger thani the Ineos may not be thiiie right fit. Also, as American, we have no idea what the price would be since it was never released. All there has been speculation. We may get price increase but based on Greg's comments from the US update, thise early adopters may get the vehicle at with no dealer mark ups.

This is what I’m holding out for. But I’m tempering that with the assumption of a price hike. As long as there’s no dealer gouging.

 

[Davman]

Pam was the one to look at.

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I suppose its completely inappropriate to say "Show us your TOOTS"?

 

[Sebastian]

Unfortunate for the US reservation holders. I'm having to weigh whether to stick with the grenadier or keep reservations and purchase a Rivian R1S (paid deposit, estimated delivery 2024) or the Denali EV (paid deposit, estimated delivery 2024), both of which have confirmed and locked in pricing.

as stated here before, US prices were not stated yet. maybe they will be close to what you expected once they will be communicated due to strong USD / Ineos might not „increase“ US prices that much due to better exchange rates. fingers crossed.

 

[Camskii]

Wow there are a lot of unhappy campers on the FB groups!

 

[Davman]

Wow there are a lot of unhappy campers on the FB groups!

Why, because they didn't put their money where their mouth is?

 

[Sam]

totally agree

I mean it sucks... but if you're not yet a customer, just a browser, you can't complain about price rises - you just got buyers (or browsers) remorse

May as well complain about property prices not being the same as 2 years ago

(I feel for US buyers, who seem to have been waiting for a chance to make a reservation but not yet been given it)

 

[Sam]

is anyone who's ordered a grenadier thrilled it's got a bmw powerplant?

Me.

When you own a Defender everything is an upgrade.

 

[Camskii]

Why, because they didn't put their money where their mouth is?

That and just general butthurt. Eg Its too expensive so Im going to buy a 70 series instead! (and wait 4 years) or buy a 300 series! (which is more expensive anyway)

 

[Davman]

Toyota have already said that there will be price rises for the 70 series when it drops here........ in 4 years time.

You can be guaranteed that it will not be long before Toyota up the price on the LC300 too, with the next year model.

INEOS have only done what everyone else is doing, I cant see the problem - however I already have deposits in place.

I do feel sorry though for the late comers, that sucks. I was too late to become an early adopter, so I have to wait longer now than others.
Such is Life.

 

[Tazzieman]

And to be honest, is anyone who's ordered a grenadier thrilled it's got a bmw powerplant?

Me. What's not to like?

 

[Halliwell Jones Chester]

Confirmation that any spec changes will be pre price increase, not new prices.

 

[DCPU]

Better load mine up then and try my hand at automotive arbitrage.

 

[Deleted User Account.]

Me. What's not to like?

My n54 had hpfp issues and wastegate rattle that bmw refused to address/fix. Overall not happy with how bmw dealt with widely known problems with their motor. It was great to drive, but reliable it was not. I don't know why ineos couldnt arrange to put the 3.0 Cummins ecodiesel in the grenadier or if they even looked into it.

And that's where the problems come about when ineos looks to get into the US market. Motor and drivetrain would make a difference to me if they bothered to put out a manual diesel. I would bet most here would prefer that combination.

So now we're left waiting to see if grenadier makes being an early adopter here a worthwhile endeavor.

 

[bemax]

I read quite often about the straight six 3.0 litre engines from BMW with the 8 speed ZF as the perfect match. I haven’t heard that about other engines. But maybe in Germany we are biased towards our industry…

 

[emax]

to put the 3.0 Cummins ecodiesel in the grenadier

Is that available with Euro 6 certification?

 

[Deleted User Account.]

Is that available with Euro 6 certification?

No idea. It's made in Italy though. "EcoDiesel is manufactured by VM Motori, an affiliate of FCA, at their Cento Facility in Ferrara, Italy."

 

[bemax]

EcoDiesel - Wikipedia

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