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Hello all. I live in Nashville, TN and just drove past our new Ineos Grenadier dealership two weeks ago. Never really thought seriously about them since Atlanta was the closest dealership. Currently driving a 2024 Toyota Landcrusier but considering making the switch. I drove FJ Cruisers the last 15 years and decided to upgrade but am finding the new LC to be a bit too refined for my taste. Don't get me wrong. It is a great rig but I am not liking it like I thought I would. Anyone else make the switch from LC 250 to Grenadier?

Looking at a base model that I can modestly build out. Will mostly be used for commuting but will see some offroad activity as well. The dealership is currently offering new buyers a deal where you purchase $2000 worth of accessories and you get another $2000 on the house. Sounds like a good deal but I dont really like their rock rails. Prefer the rock rail/step combo. The ladder has no grip on the steps. etc. Just trying to decide what to do.

Also, What are the largest tires you can fit without lifting? 285's? Im sure that is somewhere on the forum.

Thanks and look forward to learning more from everyone.

Rod
 

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Ronny Dahl has tested the Grenadier and is now testing the LC250. He is focused on offroad and towing with some on road performance. RHD models.

 
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Ronny Dahl has tested the Grenadier and is now testing the LC250. He is focused on offroad and towing with some on road performance. RHD models.

Yep. I have watched his stuff for years.
 

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People are running 285’s without a lift. Eibach had a 2” lift for the US but it’s causing some mayhem with the CV boot on the front drive shaft - familiar problem for Jeep guys. Personally, I would prioritize getting the triple lock with pre-wired aux hookups on the roof - OEM accessories are just OK, as you point out. There are far better options on market. Just push them on the price and get those 2 things in your config. Dealers are willing to deal to unload ‘24 inventory
 
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I would get the triple lock option with the switch panel and 2 batteries. Also look at a Trialmaster because it comes with a lot of options as standard. The heated seats are fantastic if you need them. Also what I would say is to get a longer test drive from the dealer without the salesman so you can make your own mind up .
 

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To me, the things that are hard (think costly) to upgrade after the purchase are the following.
1. Front and rear lockers.
2. Safari Windows
3. Prewiring for the tow hitch
4. Prewiring for the extra switches (this includes the 2nd battery)

For almost everything else, the aftermarket is growing or has grown to provide really good options and you could wait to do upgrades as you desire or can afford.

I would agree, a longer test drive would be a great idea.

I am about 13K miles into my ownership and I am very happy. I did not get the extra switches and battery and I low key regret not doing so.
 

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To me, the things that are hard (think costly) to upgrade after the purchase are the following.
1. Front and rear lockers.
2. Safari Windows
3. Prewiring for the tow hitch
4. Prewiring for the extra switches (this includes the 2nd battery)

For almost everything else, the aftermarket is growing or has grown to provide really good options and you could wait to do upgrades as you desire or can afford.

I would agree, a longer test drive would be a great idea.

I am about 13K miles into my ownership and I am very happy. I did not get the extra switches and battery and I low key regret not doing so.
I was just at my dealer on Saturday. The manager told me they can now order the trailer wiring kit as an after-sale addition (I already had them add the hitch receiver as an after-sales addition) - so yeah, decide on the safari windows, center vs triple locks, and roof wiring. Those are things you can’t do much about after the fact.
 

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But if I'm not mistaken, the hitch is like $800 from the factory and $2400 if the dealer does it afterwards. I think @anand posted the actual cost somewhere.
 

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To me, the things that are hard (think costly) to upgrade after the purchase are the following.
1. Front and rear lockers.
2. Safari Windows
3. Prewiring for the tow hitch
4. Prewiring for the extra switches (this includes the 2nd battery)

For almost everything else, the aftermarket is growing or has grown to provide really good options and you could wait to do upgrades as you desire or can afford.

I would agree, a longer test drive would be a great idea.

I am about 13K miles into my ownership and I am very happy. I did not get the extra switches and battery and I low key regret not doing so.
This is the list. I think the above is the requirements. I would order the fieldmaster with these options and get the nicer seats.
i ordered the Raised Air intake + the cyclone air cleaner. I would order that again.

everything else i would do aftermarket. including the winch.
i have the:
  • agile offroad non-adjustable steering damper (essential imho)
  • GP factor winch and bull bar. super nice
  • dissent offroad sliders, super nice
  • agile offroad, offroad lights from baja - amazing
  • Larger wheels (33.5") + extra set of steelies i bought from a member as takeoff
  • bison gear 3/4 roof rack, good but i hear leitner is possibly better (didn't exist when i ordered)
  • Owl sunvisor by rosen (really good)
  • Bison gear interior shelf, essential imho
  • Bison gear side baskets, essential imho
  • rival underbody protection

I have a bunch of other things, but this is the essential stuff imho.
 
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Thanks for all of the tips everyone.

My dealership has all base models in inventory. But, all are upgraded with triple lockers and leather seats. Everything else is an option so I feel good about where I would be starting from. 17" steel wheels for sure.
 
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This is the list. I think the above is the requirements. I would order the fieldmaster with these options and get the nicer seats.
i ordered the Raised Air intake + the cyclone air cleaner. I would order that again.

everything else i would do aftermarket. including the winch.
i have the:
  • agile offroad non-adjustable steering damper (essential imho)
    GP factor winch and bull bar. super nice
  • dissent offroad sliders, super nice
  • agile offroad, offroad lights from baja - amazing
  • Larger wheels (33.5") + extra set of steelies i bought from a member as takeoff
  • bison gear 3/4 roof rack, good but i hear leitner is possibly better (didn't exist when i ordered)
  • Own sunvisor by rosen (really good)
  • Bison gear interior shelf, essential imho
  • Bison gear side baskets, essential imho
  • rival underbody protection

I have a bunch of other things, but this is the essential stuff imho.
Wow. I looked up most of that stuff. You must have a well sorted ride!
 

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Thanks for all of the tips everyone.

My dealership has all base models in inventory. But, all are upgraded with triple lockers and leather seats. Everything else is an option so I feel good about where I would be starting from. 17" steel wheels for sure.
Is there ANY chance you can also get one with the auxiliary power up top? If you get that and the diff locks, everything else you can just take at your own pace. But if you don’t anticipate anything like solar or work lights, it’s not necessary
 
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Is there ANY chance you can also get one with the auxiliary power up top? If you get that and the diff locks, everything else you can just take at your own pace. But if you don’t anticipate anything like solar or work lights, it’s not necessary
I am pretty sure the dealer is able to install aux power.
 

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I am pretty sure the dealer is able to install aux power.
It’s a factory config - with the additional EXT switches on the panel and the DTP ports (4) on the roof. But if you don’t need them there are still some additional internal ports and under the hood
 

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I am pretty sure the dealer is able to install aux power.
I don’t think they can but even if it’s possible, like the trailer hitch wiring, it’s going to be much cheaper to get it from the factory already installed.
 

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I don't think it should be a debate. Lockers, high load wiring are the must have items in my opinion. Largely because they really can't be added after the fact, or maybe possible (although i've nver heard anyone successfully do it) with a lot of expense.

If you never think you'll put extra electrical stuff on your car (lights, comms radios etc) or you'll never be in any offroad scenario beyond forest roads then perhaps you won't need it.

I don't use my lockers often, but i have found them essential when i used them. I have used up all my high load circuits except one. They have been surprisingly useful.
 
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@Rocket50 - do whatever seems good to you - I think it’s cool to have someone who can compare the Grenadier and the LC 250 from real world experience. We’ve just seen a few members express regret when they don’t get the lockers and the auxiliary wiring - as they start to see the ridiculous capabilities and the LEGO-land build out possibilities. But whatever floats your boat - just take it as people wanting you to be completely happy with your choice.
 

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FWIW, the units that sit on the lots are the ones that generally don’t have: lockers, safari windows, high load aux wiring.

I think that speaks to future resale/trade-in value as well…if that’s a consideration.
 
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Check them for excessively loud power steering whining sound.

Check the hvac. They may not work properly.

Be cautious.. there are some egregious issues Ineos has failed to address. Low trust relationship at this point. Research those before deciding

Would not recommend buying unless you are HIGHLY infatuated with it.. there are too many downsides
 
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