My 2025 Ineos new years wish list

[CrazyOldMan]

And the best of all……
No stupid camera in the windscreen

Curse you, Kiwi! You’re really missing out on a symphony of European clicks and bings. May your footwell hump cause excruciating back pain and your sheep go on strike.

 

[homeyclaus]

The wish list we'll never get:

1. Release the manual for the thing.
2. Open-source the operating software; at least then we can fix it ourselves.
3. Parts lists and diagrams. You know, for people that actually drive places where things break and there are no dealers - that "exploration" thing.

 

[Znarfgh]

WORKSHOP MANUAL

I have a Land Rover and a Jeep and have workshop manuals for both - why can't Ineos Automotive make them available to us? I think I know!

 

[DenisM]

As for my wish list in no apparent order:

1. A service manual. Doesn't have to be everything, just cover basic servicing and other maintenance procedures that a typical enthusiast user could do.
2. Complimenting this allow the user to reset things like the service light and reprogram TPMS sensor positions etc
3. Expand the service centre network, particularly in the west of Australia.
4. Tidy up the infotainment menu structure, e.g. move the pathfinder export menu from the home screen to the pathfinder menu, use icons like the off-road menu rather than lists.

Cheers
Steve

Just resurrecting the long awaited workshop manual "dead horse" to give it another kick....
Was wondering if any of our Ineos Grenadier club forum members in the State of Victoria (Aus) have had any opportunity to raise this issue recently with the senior people from Ineos command HQ in Melbourne????

 

[Diego]

Workshop manual and parts list

Gearbox to be able to be in neutral with the engine shut down

Transfer box with neutral

 

[Dudlington]

One additional wish for the Europe Version:

• A smaller Front-Bumper!!

When I look at the Toyota Landcruiser 250, it seems to be legally possible to design a smaller bumper in the EU too.

No 2 cars from different manufacturers are the same so “just” looking and thinking something does not mean it would seem to be legally possible. Do you have any experience in designing/developing bumper systems?.

 

[David van Breda]

How about a short wheelbase 3-door version...?!

 

[Skymark]

The rear locker state detection logic could use further investment.

When locked the truck performs great. Sometimes the detection logic is unable to confirm the lock and drops you out of lock after a time out. Most times, the detection logic is unable to confirm unlocked until a full 90 degree turn is made which is often not possible on trail. Also, currently, if my vehicle is in the unlocking state, I cannot reengage the lock. Above means the owners manual guidance of only locking for the technical bit and immediately unlocking is not practical. Instead the current detection logic weaknesses means you have to lock early and stay locked most of the time. At least this is the behavior of my truck’s production instance.

It would be safer if I could lock/unlock the hubs whenever and not have to wonder if the vehicle is going to change state on me in the middle of a tricky section because the chosen indirect implementation method of wheel sensor programming logic is not robust. Surely Eaton has a direct detection method, even if it as simple as “is there a voltage applied to the locker circuit?”

Yes, there are driving techniques to compensate. And yes, I love driving this truck. But this is a thread about improvements, hence my $0.02.

 

[ADVAW8S]

The rear locker state detection logic could use further investment.

When locked the truck performs great. Sometimes the detection logic is unable to confirm the lock and drops you out of lock after a time out. Most times, the detection logic is unable to confirm unlocked until a full 90 degree turn is made which is often not possible on trail. Also, currently, if my vehicle is in the unlocking state, I cannot reengage the lock. Above means the owners manual guidance of only locking for the technical bit and immediately unlocking is not practical. Instead the current detection logic weaknesses means you have to lock early and stay locked most of the time. At least this is the behavior of my truck’s production instance.

It would be safer if I could lock/unlock the hubs whenever and not have to wonder if the vehicle is going to change state on me in the middle of a tricky section because the chosen indirect implementation method of wheel sensor programming logic is not robust. Surely Eaton has a direct detection method, even if it as simple as “is there a voltage applied to the locker circuit?”

Yes, there are driving techniques to compensate. And yes, I love driving this truck. But this is a thread about improvements, hence my $0.02.

Would the new "change my mind" software update on lockers address the issue. You press the button immediately after you unlock it. The system reengage the lockers.

Now I know it's not available to everyone, just asking for the masses.

 

[Bayford]

The rear locker state detection logic could use further investment.

When locked the truck performs great. Sometimes the detection logic is unable to confirm the lock and drops you out of lock after a time out. Most times, the detection logic is unable to confirm unlocked until a full 90 degree turn is made which is often not possible on trail. Also, currently, if my vehicle is in the unlocking state, I cannot reengage the lock. Above means the owners manual guidance of only locking for the technical bit and immediately unlocking is not practical. Instead the current detection logic weaknesses means you have to lock early and stay locked most of the time. At least this is the behavior of my truck’s production instance.

It would be safer if I could lock/unlock the hubs whenever and not have to wonder if the vehicle is going to change state on me in the middle of a tricky section because the chosen indirect implementation method of wheel sensor programming logic is not robust. Surely Eaton has a direct detection method, even if it as simple as “is there a voltage applied to the locker circuit?”

Yes, there are driving techniques to compensate. And yes, I love driving this truck. But this is a thread about improvements, hence my $0.02.

That is one thing that I much prefer on my old Landcruiser Amazon than the Grenadier - Lock all the diffs on the Toyota and everything stays locked until you twist the knobs on the dash and unlock them. It is a pain in the Grenadier when you get out and switch the ignition off in a muddy field and have to remember to lock everything up again when you restart it. I'm sure there is a reason for why the Grenadier is how it is but I question whether it constitutes progress.