Inconsistant UK Trialmaster and Fieldmaster Pricing

[Trialmaster]

While exploring BUILD YOUR GRENADIER section of the UK Grenadier website there are some pricing inconsistancies. I reported the two different prices for the Trialmaster and Fieldmaster to Ineos and they say there is nothing wrong with the website. Am I wrong, are they correct?

FYI:

For those in the UK the Trialmaster and Fieldmaster are listed under 5-Seater Utility Wagon listed at £72,250. Only difference being the angle of the rear seats.

While under Station Wagon the Fieldmaster and Trialmaster start at £78,885.

The later is a price increase and the former is a reduction - CONFUSED or what?

 

[Trialmaster]

The price difference is solely due to the rear seat angle. So you pay £6,000 more for a more comfortable rear seat......blood and sand. Just wow......

After questioning it again this was the answer from Inoes:

This discrepancy arises from the fact that one is a utility wagon while the other is a station wagon.

Utility Wagon:

The 5-seater utility wagon is equipped with a cargo barrier, striking an ideal balance between carrying capacity and passenger accommodation. The rear seats are positioned slightly further forward and are more upright compared to those in the station wagon.

Station Wagon:

In contrast, the station wagon prioritizes passenger comfort over load space. It offers more knee room for second-row passengers than the 5-seater utility wagon and is primarily designed for transporting people rather than cargo.

 

[Rab]

it’s probably new vehicle tax, the utility is N1 light goods vehicle. There’s £5,230 difference right there.

 

[Trialmaster]

it’s probably new vehicle tax, the utility is N1 light goods vehicle. There’s £5,230 difference right there.

Both are subject to £5450 VED.

I just cannot understand why anyone will ever pay £6k more to purchase a Station Wagon, whoever did the pricing structiure has a few brain cells missing as it has killed the Station Wagon. There will be kits available to revise the seating position on the Utility Version.

 

[Gryphon]

While exploring BUILD YOUR GRENADIER section of the UK Grenadier website there are some pricing inconsistancies. I reported the two different prices for the Trialmaster and Fieldmaster to Ineos and they say there is nothing wrong with the website. Am I wrong, are they correct?

FYI:

For those in the UK the Trialmaster and Fieldmaster are listed under 5-Seater Utility Wagon listed at £72,250. Only difference being the angle of the rear seats.

While under Station Wagon the Fieldmaster and Trialmaster start at £78,885.

The later is a price increase and the former is a reduction - CONFUSED or what?

There is a 10mph reduction in permitted speed limits on single carriage way and dual carriage way for commercial vehicles in the uk. That may explain why some people buy the station wagon.

 

[Trialmaster]

There is a 10mph reduction in permitted speed limits on single carriage way and dual carriage way for commercial vehicles in the uk. That may explain why some people buy the station wagon.

Would you think, Joe Public or the Police will know which Grenadier is speed limited and which is not?

My guess, it's a way round the recent VED hike, as no one will ever spec a Station Wagon any more. The will buy a Trialmaster Utility and purchase an after market kit to recline the rear seats.

On the one hand, it is a genius work round and on the other madness, until you realise what they are doing (lowering the price to compensate for VED increases).

 

[Eric]

Would you think, Joe Public or the Police will know which Grenadier is speed limited and which is not?

No they won't, but speed cameras can do from the registration number. They can also identify lorry classification.

 

[landmannnn]

Both are subject to £5450 VED.

I just cannot understand why anyone will ever pay £6k more to purchase a Station Wagon, whoever did the pricing structiure has a few brain cells missing as it has killed the Station Wagon. There will be kits available to revise the seating position on the Utility Version.

The N1 utility has a first year car tax of around £350.
The station wagon has a first year car tax of around £5,400.
Since the price list is "on the road" the station wagon is around £5,000 more.

So if the buyer is prepared for the lower speed limit on 50 and 60mph roads then the N1 would make financial sense.

 

[Trialmaster]

Their pricing is actually £6k difference on the Ineos website. I also recognise what Eric said about speed cameras, but that is a risk in whatever you drive.

 

[Gryphon]

Anyone who has attended a speed awareness course in the uk will know that many of the attendees are drivers of commercial vans who have exceeded a 50mph or 60mph speed limit and are either unaware of the limits for their commercial vehicle or just in a hurry. Expensive mistakes both in money and time.

 

[Eric]

Anyone who has attended a speed awareness course in the uk will know that many of the attendees are drivers of commercial vans who have exceeded a 50mph or 60mph speed limit and are either unaware of the limits for their commercial vehicle or just in a hurry. Expensive mistakes both in money and time.

I've followed transit van speed camera vans exceeding their speed limit, clearly they don't know they are not car derived vans and therefore subject to the lower speed limit of 50mph on single carriageway roads

 

[Cheshire cat]

Boils down to Fieldmaster and Trialmaster being M1, whilst Station Wagon is N1. Tax thresholds are the only difference.
I purchased the N1 with every extra except winch and raised air intake.
The rear seats were 4” further forward to give enough cargo space to meet N1 requirements. £70.00 aftermarket accessory will allow rear seats to be the same as M1 class. (So I’m told ), but would technically compromise N1 classification.
I accept the additional speed limits and enjoy the lesser taxes due.

 

[landmannnn]

Boils down to Fieldmaster and Trialmaster being M1, whilst Station Wagon is N1. Tax thresholds are the only difference.
I purchased the N1 with every extra except winch and raised air intake.
The rear seats were 4” further forward to give enough cargo space to meet N1 requirements. £70.00 aftermarket accessory will allow rear seats to be the same as M1 class. (So I’m told ), but would technically compromise N1 classification.
I accept the additional speed limits and enjoy the lesser taxes due.

Pretty much the same for me.

On the rear seats, it is just a move of the seat frame into the rear mounting holes.
This won't affect the N1 classification. N1 was what the vehicle was type approval as, it is impossible to change it.

 

[Cheshire cat]

Pretty much the same for me.

On the rear seats, it is just a move of the seat frame into the rear mounting holes.
This won't affect the N1 classification. N1 was what the vehicle was type approval as, it is impossible to change it.

Glad to read that, as it was one of the first mods I made.