Rear Seat Adjustment - moving my 5 Seater Commercial (UK) rear seat to Field/Trialmaster position.

[DaBull]

When I adjusted my seats, I didn’t require any additional brackets. I followed advice as found on here and on FB. To properly attach the rear gaurd that came with my vehicle I do need brackets as fitted to the Trialmaster. I have a work a round as found on here but would like the original brackets.

Hi Cheshire cat, Is your Grenadier a commercial version where the original seats were farther forward and then you moved them back to where the non-commercial version seats are? The brackets I found on ebay and ordered are for getting a bit more slant for the rear seat back for non-commercial seats, like those in the Fieldmaster and Trialmaster. They will allow the rear seat back to slant back farther towards the rear by approximately 50mm or 2", thereby creating a more comfortable slant for the rear seat passengers as the stock position is a bit too upright. For those that have cargo barriers, you would have to find another way to attach it if you used these brackets. DaBull
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1262311641...d=link&campid=5338980679&toolid=20001&mkevt=1

 

[Cheshire cat]

Hi Cheshire cat, Is your Grenadier a commercial version where the original seats were farther forward and then you moved them back to where the non-commercial version seats are? The brackets I found on ebay and ordered are for getting a bit more slant for the rear seat back for non-commercial seats, like those in the Fieldmaster and Trialmaster. They will allow the rear seat back to slant back farther towards the rear by approximately 50mm or 2", thereby creating a more comfortable slant for the rear seat passengers as the stock position is a bit too upright. For those that have cargo barriers, you would have to find another way to attach it if you used these brackets. DaBull
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1262311641...d=link&campid=5338980679&toolid=20001&mkevt=1

Hi DaBull
That sounds interesting. Might consider them myself. As you guessed, mine is a commercial in which I moved the seats back around 4 inches and in doing so, was able to recline the seats somewhat. The extra 50 mm offered by the brackets you referenced might prove very welcome.

 

[Christian S.]

Hey, thanks for the pictures.

Can you send me the pictures how you deistall ans instell the seats to my email address?

chris57979@gmail.com

Thanks

 

[Steveclonmel]

Hi DaBull
That sounds interesting. Might consider them myself. As you guessed, mine is a commercial in which I moved the seats back around 4 inches and in doing so, was able to recline the seats somewhat. The extra 50 mm offered by the brackets you referenced might prove very welcome.

Hi There, I have the 5 seater commercial vehicle and I'd love to move my rear seats back by about 4 inches please can you give me the name/number of the company who did that work for you ? that would be a big help, cheers Steve

 

[Cheshire cat]

Hi

Hi There, I have the 5 seater commercial vehicle and I'd love to move my rear seats back by about 4 inches please can you give me the name/number of the company who did that work for you ? that would be a big help, cheers Steve

Hi Steve
This is a task that can be carried by yourself or anyone who is handy with a couple of spanners, ratchet, torx bits, etc. It is not a difficult job and will take less than an hour.

 

[m18rus]

Disappointed with the legroom in the 5 Seater Commercial (UK) Grenadier. No problem, simply move the rear seat to match the location of the Trial and Fieldmaster. Passengers wont only benefit from greater leg room, but will also enjoy the more reclined rake of the seat back.

Time required: The whole job took no more than 2 hours.
Kit required: Small Phillips screwdriver / Security Torx socket / Smaller standard Torx socket / Rachet and extension bar

Step 1 - Remove caged bulkhead from the rear load space. Pic 1 shows the top fixing mount in the headlining (Torx bolt) and the bottom fixing mount (Torx bolt), just behind the seatback retaining bracket. Pic 2 shows the mounts with caged bulkhead removed.

Step 2 - Remove the additional trim cover plates as shown in Pic 3. These trims are held in place by 5 x plastic press clips. Use the small Philips screwdriver to release the clips. Clips can be seen in Pic 4

Step 3 - Remove, both the rear seatback retaining mount and caged bulkhead mount (both sides), shown in Pic 5

Step 4 - Remove the rear seat bottom trim as seen in Pic 6. Pics 7 & 8 show the torx bolts under the trim panel. These torx bolts will also need removing (Zoom in on pics for detail)

Step 5 - Go around to the side of the car and remove the rear seat leg mount trims, shown in Pic 9 (this is held in place by the top 2 x clips and a centre plastic press clip. The top two clips simply ease out however, the centre clip is the same used on the additional trim removed in Step 2. Once the trims are removed, remove the mounting bolts as seen in Pic 10. Repeat on other side.

Step 6 - Remove the centre seat base mount bolts and the second dark grey (non security torx) bolts also. You can identify both sets of bolts clearly in Pic 11 & 12. Pic 13 shows both sets of bolts removed.

Step 7 - As mentioned in Step 4, remove the torx bolts from the backrest base as shown in Pics 14, 15, 16 & 17. Refit the additional bolts (second/spare set) into the threads the backrest was originally bolted too. Then using the original backrest bolts, position and tighten in the second set of threads. These are the thread sets that are positioned the furthest to the rear of the vehicle and had the additional/spare bolts secured in them. Seen in Pic 18 & 19.

Step 8 - Refit the backrest mounting bracket to the two threads marked M1 or the furthest set to the rear of the vehicle, see Pic 20. Interestingly, I noted these mounts were originally positioned in a location stamped N1 and wonder if this is deliberate to match its N1 Commercial classification. Note, you wont be using the bracket that was used as the bottom mount for the bulkhead. This can be seen in Pic 21. Pic 22 shows the backrest mount in place with the trim refitted. I also used some rubber bungs to fill in the previously used holes, for a more complete finish.

Step 9 - Secure the seat base mount to the new fixings, using the original security torx. Use the second grey set of bolts to fill the previously used threads. Both seen in Pics 23 & 24

Step 10 - Now the seat is in its new position, Secure the seat base legs in the new position. Seen in Pic 25 & 26. Refit leg trim as seen in Pic 27

Step 11 - Refit seat back trim as seen in Pic 28 & 29

Step 12 - Pat yourself on the back for a job well done. Seen in Pic 30

There's a similar post with videos on the
Ineos Facebook Group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/754330368649291/ search Iain Thomson. Did mine, some of those
torx are tight...........beware of stripping or even snapping tools......................

 

[Cheshire cat]

Took me about an hour all round. As mentioned above, some Torx fittings are very tight