How do I clear the 6 month service reminder?

[Dokatd]

That's a US law issue, not an Ineos issue; although, easy fixes exist

What US law? Non 4x4 vehicles have aux and or fog lamps. They don't require you be in off-road mode to turn them on. I was under the understanding this was an Australia thing or something.

 

[anand]

What US law? Non 4x4 vehicles have aux and or fog lamps. They don't require you be in off-road mode to turn them on. I was under the understanding this was an Australia thing or something.

Same as the Bronco Raptor, which comes with non-SAE lighting as well (Rigid if memory is correct), it cannot be turned on while on public roadways; thus a system has to be implemented to ensure that it is not used unless in off-road mode.

I can't quote you the exact law, but that is the reasoning behind it

 

[Stu_Barnes]

Simple fix for them would just be replace the fuel and service bong with the lane departure sound. The LDW chime so pleasant, I often drift on purpose just to hear it again. If the sound changed, then Idgaf about the stupid trigger conditions for them.

If IA truly desires for the fuel and service bongs to be jarring, they may as well throw up a jump scare animation on the infotainment screen to go with the sound

This has been suggested more than once by myself to various bods at IA. Also followed up with you’ve lost a few sales because of this with my friends alone unfortunately.

 

[Dokatd]

Same as the Bronco Raptor, which comes with non-SAE lighting as well (Rigid if memory is correct), it cannot be turned on while on public roadways; thus a system has to be implemented to ensure that it is not used unless in off-road mode.

I can't quote you the exact law, but that is the reasoning behind it

Correct me if I'm wrong, but on the Raptor the aux lights are on an independent switch but do not require you be in off-road mode or otherwise. On the Grenadier you have to be in off-road mode and that shuts off at something like 40mph by itself.

My understanding is that non SAE lights must be separate from regular road lights switches and fog light switches.

 

[DaveB]

What US law? Non 4x4 vehicles have aux and or fog lamps. They don't require you be in off-road mode to turn them on. I was under the understanding this was an Australia thing or something.

In Australia they are connected and operated with the high beam lights but not connected to offroad function at all.
That is some crazy stupid european thing.

 

[Dokatd]

In Australia they are connected and operated with the high beam lights but not connected to offroad function at all.
That is some crazy stupid european thing.

I stand corrected in that respect then.

 

[Tinerfeño]

In Australia they are connected and operated with the high beam lights but not connected to offroad function at all.
That is some crazy stupid european thing.

My European auxiliary lights work without offroad mode.

 

[anand]

In Australia they are connected and operated with the high beam lights but not connected to offroad function at all.
That is some crazy stupid european thing.

EU is the same, just the switch on and main beams.

 

[DaveB]

My European auxiliary lights work without offroad mode.

Must be British then or just North American

 

[Dokatd]

I can't find any law across the globe that would require the vehicle to be in any mode to turn on AUX lights. Even California doesn't require it though they do require opaque covers in certain situations. Australia and NZ require a separate AUX switch but nothing that would prevent them from being turned on at any time or any condition.

I suspect Ineos just thought it would be cute to tie it into the Off-road Mode. Hopefully the impending update will resolve this as well.

 

[Clark Kent]

I can't find any law across the globe that would require the vehicle to be in any mode to turn on AUX lights. Even California doesn't require it though they do require opaque covers in certain situations. Australia and NZ require a separate AUX switch but nothing that would prevent them from being turned on at any time or any condition.

I suspect Ineos just thought it would be cute to tie it into the Off-road Mode. Hopefully the impending update will resolve this as well.

Australian example.

The lamp/s must be wired through a switch so they can only come on when the main beam (high beam) headlamps are turned on, and must automatically turn off when the main beam headlamps are turned off. The switch must be wired so that the driving lamps can be switched off while the main-beam headlamps remain on.

 

[Dokatd]

Australian example.

The lamp/s must be wired through a switch so they can only come on when the main beam (high beam) headlamps are turned on, and must automatically turn off when the main beam headlamps are turned off. The switch must be wired so that the driving lamps can be switched off while the main-beam headlamps remain on.

And that's totally reasonable.

 

[Jeremy996]

Australian example.

The lamp/s must be wired through a switch so they can only come on when the main beam (high beam) headlamps are turned on, and must automatically turn off when the main beam headlamps are turned off. The switch must be wired so that the driving lamps can be switched off while the main-beam headlamps remain on.

The UK lighting regulations are pretty much identical. Why the US implementation is so different is either local legislation or a cruel joke by Ineos.

 

[anand]

I can't find any law across the globe that would require the vehicle to be in any mode to turn on AUX lights. Even California doesn't require it though they do require opaque covers in certain situations. Australia and NZ require a separate AUX switch but nothing that would prevent them from being turned on at any time or any condition.

I believe it is an additional step because the lamps do not meet SAE requirements; and, to be blunt, Americans on the whole do not understand how to use fog lights let alone any other auxillary lighting. For example, take note of the countless Euro vehicles driving with rear fog lights activated on clear nights (yes RoW, we have rear fog lights here because too many people were being given citations for having a lamp burned out with just one).

Since California requires opaque covers (many other states do as well), I would guess it was much easier to just add a step that makes the driver confirm they accept they are "off road" than create additional covers

 

[DaveB]

I can't find any law across the globe that would require the vehicle to be in any mode to turn on AUX lights. Even California doesn't require it though they do require opaque covers in certain situations. Australia and NZ require a separate AUX switch but nothing that would prevent them from being turned on at any time or any condition.

I suspect Ineos just thought it would be cute to tie it into the Off-road Mode. Hopefully the impending update will resolve this as well.

Maybe someone at Ineos was bored and thought it would be a good laugh.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

how is the aux light such an uproar!? It’s not close to being essential for the majority of owners

 

[Dokatd]

how is the aux light such an uproar!? It’s not close to being essential for car majority of owners

Not sure what you're saying, looks like you broke up a bit at the end "Over".

But the current discussion is in regards to the activation of the from AUX or Offroad lights on the grill. First you have to put the truck in Offroad mode then hit the AUX light switch and then turn on high beams. Then when you hit 40mph the truck drops out of Offroad mode and the lights go out until you go back into Offroad mode.

I believe it is an additional step because the lamps do not meet SAE requirements; and, to be blunt, Americans on the whole do not understand how to use fog lights let alone any other auxillary lighting. For example, take note of the countless Euro vehicles driving with rear fog lights activated on clear nights (yes RoW, we have rear fog lights here because too many people were being given citations for having a lamp burned out with just one).

Since California requires opaque covers (many other states do as well), I would guess it was much easier to just add a step that makes the driver confirm they accept they are "off road" than create additional covers

It very well could be we are getting screwed by California again. But I do agree some people here in the US don't know how to use lights.

 

[GN4HIR]

That's a US law issue, not an Ineos issue; although, easy fixes exist

According to federal law, while the Department of Transportation (DOT) does regulate vehicle lighting through Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) 108, there are no specific federal regulations directly governing auxiliary lights like driving or fog lamps on vehicles; meaning, they are not required to be installed as original equipment, but their installation cannot impair the functionality of other required lighting equipment like turn signals.

• State and local laws:
  Individual states may have their own laws regarding auxiliary lights, including limitations on the number of lights, mounting positions, and brightness. We will call these states "Nanny States" and most will be on the East or West Coast.

 

[GN4HIR]

TEXAS LAW ON STUFF

Sec. 547.327. SPOTLAMPS PERMITTED. (a) A motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two spotlamps.
(b) A spotlamp shall be aimed so that no part of the high-intensity portion of the beam strikes the windshield, window, mirror, or occupant of another vehicle in use.

Sec. 547.328. FOG LAMPS PERMITTED. (a) A motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two fog lamps.
(b) A fog lamp shall be:
(1) mounted on the front of the vehicle at a height from 12 to 30 inches; and
(2) aimed so that no part of the high-intensity portion of the beam from a lamp mounted to the left of center on a vehicle projects a beam of light at a distance of 25 feet that is higher than four inches below the level of the center of the lamp.
(c) Lighted fog lamps may be used with lower headlamp beams as specified by Section 547.333.

Sec. 547.329. AUXILIARY PASSING LAMPS PERMITTED. (a) A motor vehicle may be equipped with no more than two auxiliary passing lamps.
(b) An auxiliary passing lamp shall be mounted on the front of the vehicle at a height from 24 to 42 inches.
(c) An auxiliary passing lamp may be used with headlamps as specified by Section 547.333.

Sec. 547.330. AUXILIARY DRIVING LAMPS PERMITTED. (a) A motor vehicle may be equipped with no more than two auxiliary driving lamps.
(b) An auxiliary driving lamp shall be mounted on the front of the vehicle at a height from 16 to 42 inches.
(c) Auxiliary driving lamps may be used with headlamps as specified by Section 547.333.

Sec. 547.331. HAND HELD SPOTLAMPS FOR DEER HUNTING. (a) When using a hand held spotlamp for hunting deer, the driver must elect to either wave the light around wildly or drink his Shiner Bock but not both. A passenger may do both tasks unless he/she is in charge of the rifle. In all instances the spotlamp will be plugged into 12V outlet which will overheat and when the spotlamp is placed on the floor of the vehicle someone will get burned.

 

[globalgregors]

According to federal law, while the Department of Transportation (DOT) does regulate vehicle lighting through Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) 108, there are no specific federal regulations directly governing auxiliary lights like driving or fog lamps on vehicles; meaning, they are not required to be installed as original equipment, but their installation cannot impair the functionality of other required lighting equipment like turn signals.

• State and local laws:
  Individual states may have their own laws regarding auxiliary lights, including limitations on the number of lights, mounting positions, and brightness. We will call these states "Nanny States" and most will be on the East or West Coast.

A Comparative Guide to Light Bar Laws by State

Discover light bar laws across the US with our comprehensive guide, ensuring you stay safe and legal while driving. Know your state's regulations today!

blog.betterautomotivelighting.com

Looks like light bar laws often but not always line up with non-SAE requirements.