I have a '96 Range Rover P38 that I drove off the dealer lot after considering the V8 Defender. The Rangie proved to be the more versatile car over the years, but I need to get farther up into the hills these days... reliably. I'll nurse the P38 along, until the Grenadier arrives. I hope to keep the Grenadier just as long. Who knows if I can keep it going myself in central Montana, but this forum will help with that. I have a low 10,000 USA pre-order number. Cheers!