Grenadiers Towing

[CountyV8]

The Dixon boat on my 110 required for fixing bolts and to stay bars to the rear chassis rails. So how are you managed to get it fitted on a Grenadier I don’t know

 

[JohnHeagney]

Good point since it is a Fieldmaster M1. I don't understand how a DB drop plate is fitted if it is only the 2 lower holes that are M16, I thought a DB drop plate required 4 @ M16 holes? Or am I wrong?

It is bolted through all of the six fastening points!

 

[JohnHeagney]

The Dixon boat on my 110 required for fixing bolts and to stay bars to the rear chassis rails. So how are you managed to get it fitted on a Grenadier I don’t know

Mine is on six!

 

[JohnHeagney]

How do you get over the conformity/emark issues with the drop plate what would the insurance say if the Ghost dropped off the back??

That's a fair point but it frankly just could not happen!

 

[JohnHeagney]

Good point since it is a Fieldmaster M1. I don't understand how a DB drop plate is fitted if it is only the 2 lower holes that are M16, I thought a DB drop plate required 4 @ M16 holes? Or am I wrong?

Here it is!

 

[Eric]

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Here it is!

That looks like it was specially manufactured for the Ineos Grenadier

 

[CountyV8]

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Is that how it's supposed to be Installed there should be support stays on it like in the image . Thats a huge bending moment on it with 3500K on it.

 

[rovie]

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I had this height adjustable towbar on my Defender. My trailers had different drawbar heights. So in that respect I was very satisfied.

However, it has one major disadvantage. Whenever I drove off the road up a steep embankment onto my field, it scraped the tarmac and made two ruts. That certainly did neither the trailer coupling nor the entire suspension any good in the long run.
I will not mount it again.

 

[CountyV8]

I had this height adjustable towbar on my Defender. My trailers had different drawbar heights. So in that respect I was very satisfied.

However, it has one major disadvantage. Whenever I drove off the road up a steep embankment onto my field, it scraped the tarmac and made two ruts. That certainly did neither the trailer coupling nor the entire suspension any good in the long run.
I will not mount it again.

But it had the supports to the chassis members didn't it .

 

[Miki]

The Dixon boat on my 110 required for fixing bolts and to stay bars to the rear chassis rails. So how are you managed to get it fitted on a Grenadier I don’t know

Eh ?
Are you thinking that the existing tow plate on a Grenny isn't already connected to the chassis ?
What's it bolted to then ?
The undertray or the 'boot' floor ??

 

[Miki]

That looks like it was specially manufactured for the Ineos Grenadier

It does doesn't it - I will phone Denton Cars in the morning and ask ...
I take it that must be a class N1 Grenny ?

 

[Miki]

How do you get over the conformity/emark issues with the drop plate what would the insurance say if the Ghost dropped off the back??

Could you explain how that might happen ?
What chain of events would cause such a major failure of the towing system ?

You do seem to have a very interesting and vivid imagination.

 

[CountyV8]

Eh ?
Are you thinking that the existing tow plate on a Grenny isn't already connected to the chassis ?
What's it bolted to then ?
The undertray or the 'boot' floor ??

It is connected to the rear crossmember but the bending moment is large hence the "stays " on the 110 old version for triangulation /load distribution.

 

[JohnHeagney]

Is that how it's supposed to be Installed there should be support stays on it like in the image . Thats a huge bending moment on it with 3500K on it. View attachment 7819574

That’s a different model?

 

[Miki]

It is connected to the rear crossmember but the bending moment is large hence the "stays " on the 110 old version for triangulation /load distribution.

The S factor is almost double that of a 110 (Mk1) landrover so the actual shear point is likely be well above the tensile strength offered by the 2mm thick box section chassis and x-member of the 110.
2mm was new, most 110's i've seen (and worked on) are less than that and the rear x-member can often be bent out of shape with an 18" adjustable wrench as it (like the chassis) is a real tin-worm magnet.

The Grenny advertises a 3.5mm thick chassis, so has a significant advantage over an old 110.

 

[JohnHeagney]

That’s a different model?

This is the one that I have: https://www.trailertek.com/trailer-...MI8ZfcpoKFgAMV1e3tCh3pWAsdEAQYAyABEgI8MfD_BwE

 

[Eric]

It does doesn't it - I will phone Denton Cars in the morning and ask ...
I take it that must be a class N1 Grenny ?

No I thought his vehicle was a Fieldmaster

 

[Eric]

Could you explain how that might happen ?
What chain of events would cause such a major failure of the towing system ?

You do seem to have a very interesting and vivid imagination.

That's irrelevant it is either certified (lawful) or it's not.

 

[JohnHeagney]

No I thought his vehicle was a Fieldmaster

It is a Fieldmaster

 

[CountyV8]

That's irrelevant it is either certified (lawful) or it's not.

Yes Eric even if it does not fail it it does not have the right ticket and the vehicle is in an accident (blow out or roll over) the insurance company will walk away and you may be liable to prosecution
as you say its right or not.