Farming

[DD8V71]

The Grenadier actually works as a farm truck. Not as cool as overlanding or crawling, but day to day this thing has been doing work for me and I have no complaints. It’s a good truck. Horrible car, but good truck.

 

[Clark Kent]

The Grenadier actually works as a farm truck. Not as cool as overlanding or crawling, but day to day this thing has been doing work for me and I have no complaints. It’s a good truck. Horrible car, but good truck.

Someone likes their Jimmys

 

[CRH]

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The Grenadier actually works as a farm truck. Not as cool as overlanding or crawling, but day to day this thing has been doing work for me and I have no complaints. It’s a good truck. Horrible car, but good truck.

Nice to see them being used as work vehicles rather than just leisure or posing. Gives them real credibility

 

[ECrider]

I think seeing them work is cooler than seeing them do anything else.

 

[Zimm]

it ain't a "farm" truck, unless'n it's got that there PTO fer runnin' some farm stuff. otherwise, it's aint makin' yer work easier, it's just sittin' there watchin' ya work and collectin' pay like a millenial.

 

[ECrider]

I'm trying hard not to go down the economic migrant rabbit hole.....

 

[CRH]

I'm trying hard not to go down the economic migrant rabbit hole.....

Is that you employing?
You probably don't have any choice. If you find good ones then you will have reliable, hardworking & loyal employees. Farmers I know, and other employers have generally been successful but they are changing their mentality towards the UK 'workers' way of thinking.

What farming do you all do?

 

[DD8V71]

Is that you employing?
You probably don't have any choice. If you find good ones then you will have reliable, hardworking & loyal employees. Farmers I know, and other employers have generally been successful but they are changing their mentality towards the UK 'workers' way of thinking.

What farming do you all do?

We raise cattle and sheep. We are a family farm, and don’t have any employees unless you count my family: that’s my dad cutting ice while I stood back like the lazy millennial I am /s.

I’m somewhat familiar with the UK farming situation, having lived and worked for periods (my engineering day job) in Gloucestershire and Lincolnshire, but from what I gather our systems are a little different in terms of inputs/outputs and regulatory pressure. We typically have a lot more land to work with and less government oversight (apparently now we have no oversight or support whatsoever).

Employees are for the big family and corporate farms. We ain’t that posh.

Curious to know what you mean by “workers way of thinking.”

 

[NQ94]

DD8V71, what have you got the 71 in? I got to work on a few of them in barges and small locos before most people phased them out for 92s, Series 60 and MTUs.

 

[Clark Kent]

DD8V71, what have you got the 71 in? I got to work on a few of them in barges and small locos before most people phased them out for 92s, Series 60 and MTUs.

Thank you @NQ94. It seemed like no one got my Jimmys reference above.

 

[DD8V71]

DD8V71, what have you got the 71 in? I got to work on a few of them in barges and small locos before most people phased them out for 92s, Series 60 and MTUs.

Honestly, we don’t run 71s anymore since we got out of row crop. But way back when I had to choose an online handle and I picked one no one else had. 71s are my fav engine just because they go like hell if you tune them right and that sound is epic. I have fond memories of splitting axles hauling silage.

I’ve been working on EMD 645s and 710s for the last couple years and I think the 645s are really similar to the 71s in terms of running: they both go balls out in their power bands, and I’d take a 645 over a 710 any day. I reckon most loco techs would agree.

No experience in 92s, but I’ll say 60 series is the Toyota Corolla of engines. They run, but boring af.

 

[NQ94]

Honestly, we don’t run 71s anymore since we got out of row crop. But way back when I had to choose an online handle and I picked one no one else had. 71s are my fav engine just because they go like hell if you tune them right and that sound is epic. I have fond memories of splitting axles hauling silage.

I worked for DD for a while, very few similar sized diesel engines gave the same satisfaction of completing a good tune as a full mechanical two stroke Detroit like the 8V71. DDEC took the challenge of doing a good tune away but made work a lot easier especially on a V12 or V16.

 

[DD8V71]

I worked for DD for a while, very few similar sized diesel engines gave the same satisfaction of completing a good tune as a full mechanical two stroke Detroit like the 8V71. DDEC took the challenge of doing a good tune away but made work a lot easier especially on a V12 or V16.

Agreed. DDEC made life easier for fleet techs but took the art out of it. I’ve done this for nearly 20 years and I appreciate that tech has done some good changes but I still like messing with pumps and injectors. My main farm truck, aside from the grenadier, is a dodge 12v 6bt. I don’t mind the fancy b58 shit in the grenadier, but I’m looking forward to smarter people than me hacking that INEOS software so I can mess with it. Mostly I need to make some serious changes to the bullshit HVAC system once somebody roots the code.

 

[CRH]

Curious to know what you mean by “workers way of thinking.”

UK struggles to get people who will do hard work, they would rather claim benefits than do farm work, therefore we got lots of economic migration from Europe which contributed towards UK voting to leave EU. The workers that were already here could get UK citizenship rather than go to their original country. Now they have been here for a long period, or their children moving into the work place, they have realised that they also do not need to do the hard jobs as the benefit system will be there to help, forever, plus lots of other things workers have to pay for become free when on benefits.

Please do not take this as me being anti or pro EU, or migration or benefits. This is not the place for any discussions of this type.
Take my original post as sarcastic humour. This was just an explanation as requested.

 

[NQ94]

Agreed. DDEC made life easier for fleet techs but took the art out of it. I’ve done this for nearly 20 years and I appreciate that tech has done some good changes but I still like messing with pumps and injectors. My main farm truck, aside from the grenadier, is a dodge 12v 6bt. I don’t mind the fancy b58 shit in the grenadier, but I’m looking forward to smarter people than me hacking that INEOS software so I can mess with it. Mostly I need to make some serious changes to the bullshit HVAC system once somebody roots the code.

I am guessing there would be people would not know what is being talked about. 8V71 is a V8 71 cubic inch per cylinder 2 stroke diesel built by General Motors Detroit Diesel then Detroit Diesel became it's own company owned by Roger Penske now the company is owned by Daimler. The engine was developed during the late 1930's by GM and was one of the most used diesel engines in the 6 71 form, inline 6 cylinder, during WWII.