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Error Code P0461, fuel level sensor circuit fault- Fuel Level and Cruise Control

Green Grennie

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Many forum posts out there on the engine fault codes and timing of software updates from Ineos, wanted to share this experience with fellow owners as they work through this issue.

Just got back from the only Ineos dealer in Northern California (Price Family Ineos Grenadier). Check engine light on, my self diagnosis with a $30.00 reader from O'Reilly was a P0461, fuel level sensor circuit fault. From prior posts learned that this will also shut down the cruise control until it is cleared (my cruise control didn't work). My reader "cleared" the code but check engine light was still on, but no further codes were detected.

Dealer did diagnosis, cleared the code, and cruise control came back on.

The service tech also asked what fuel I was using (premium - 91 - with no ethanol) and whether or not I was topping off the tank (no). He then also explained the software updating/patch process the Ineos follows. I was told that the software releases are specific to a production range of VINs - what Ineos does is look at all the known software bugs or issues that need to be addressed, works on them, then releases the patch to dealers to use when updating the software for the vehicles within a specific VIN range. My unit was a "newer" production VIN so didn't have an update available yet.

He also said that their downloads are sent to Ineos for analysis. He said that this helps them collect a broader data set for future fixes, something that may be hindered by home gamers clearing out codes on their own. Many on this forum will know infinitely more about software patches etc than I do, hard for me to have an opinion on the tech's feedback on this issue but took it as a genuine process that they go through to help make improvements to the platform.

I also saw Norseig's rig in the bay - almost identical to mine, except I have the red frame. Natalie would love your PFP sticker!
 
Everything he told you was accurate

Somewhere around a 3/24 production and later (if memory serves me it equates to a VIN of >17000) you have what is referred to as a "MY24.2", and correct you don't have an update for the fuel level sensor code at this time
 
Question - I got the SW update last month that supposedly addressed this - the check engine light was good for the last month, and then it showed up again when I refueled last night. Didn’t try to top it off or anything - just normal. Ran the OBD2 scan, got the same P0461 code, but can’t clear the “permanent” one. Anyone have any tips, like chanting a hymn to Lucifer in Latin while closing my left eye or something? Ran it three times - it only clears the “temporary” codes but the permanent code remains, then I turn the engine off, restart it, the light is still on, I rerun the scan, and all instances of P0461 are back.
 

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I ordered the OBDLink MX+ in hopes it clears my CEL that came on a few days ago after a fill-up. Maybe that's not the problem since I should have the latest updates as a Sep2024 build🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Question - I got the SW update last month that supposedly addressed this - the check engine light was good for the last month, and then it showed up again when I refueled last night. Didn’t try to top it off or anything - just normal. Ran the OBD2 scan, got the same P0461 code, but can’t clear the “permanent” one. Anyone have any tips, like chanting a hymn to Lucifer in Latin while closing my left eye or something? Ran it three times - it only clears the “temporary” codes but the permanent code remains, then I turn the engine off, restart it, the light is still on, I rerun the scan, and all instances of P0461 are back.
Is it a limitation of the scan tool…meaning some don’t have the ability to clear all codes🤷🏻‍♂️?
 
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I can clear the CEL but not remove the permanent status. CEL hasn’t come back on again yet.
 
Question - I got the SW update last month that supposedly addressed this - the check engine light was good for the last month, and then it showed up again when I refueled last night. Didn’t try to top it off or anything - just normal. Ran the OBD2 scan, got the same P0461 code, but can’t clear the “permanent” one. Anyone have any tips, like chanting a hymn to Lucifer in Latin while closing my left eye or something? Ran it three times - it only clears the “temporary” codes but the permanent code remains, then I turn the engine off, restart it, the light is still on, I rerun the scan, and all instances of P0461 are back.
This is a feature... Most vehicles get fixed with the update, but a select few still get it.

To clear it, make sure the vehicle isn't running (just key on) and it should clear
 
This is a feature... Most vehicles get fixed with the update, but a select few still get it.

To clear it, make sure the vehicle isn't running (just key on) and it should clear
Bingo - that did the trick. Thank you. I have a Bluetooth reader tied to a phone app, and it says to turn on the engine - but I just ignored that and did as you said. The warning light cleared. Thanks again.

So glad to know this is a feature and not a stupid bug - makes me feel really special.
 
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