Diesel Diesel Oil Specification Thread (B57 Engines)

[Eric]

Would it make sense to brand an oil just for the Grenadier? I really don’t think so.

Makes more sense that developing a new one. Just call one of the existing oils (used for BMW) and rebrand with DG.

 

[bemax]

Makes more sense that developing a new one. Just call one of the existing oils (used for BMW) and rebrand with DG.

You are right. Of course it will be more efficient than to create a new one. But why not just use a mixture which is yet on the market? How many units can you sell a year?

 

[DaveB]

Every time I read the word GAS I think it is referring to hydrogen or LPG fueled versions.
I know it is short for gasoline, but couldn't understand why North America uses the term instead of Petrol, which is derived from Petroleum.
So here goes

 

[Eric]

You are right. Of course it will be more efficient than to create a new one. But why not just use a mixture which is yet on the market? How many units can you sell a year?

As I say pick up a couple of litres from the dealer when you collect the vehicle till all becomes clearer. They must have stock for carrying out PDI if it needs a top up

 

[Arkaig]

I had understood any oil meeting SAE 0W-30 API SN ACEA C2/C3 BMW LL-04 BMW LL-12FE sufficed the diesel Grenadier's needs. I don't believe Petronas is the sole oil provider. I intend using MANNOL, available at a reasonable price on Fleabay .

 

[Logsplitter]

I had understood any oil meeting SAE 0W-30 API SN ACEA C2/C3 BMW LL-04 BMW LL-12FE sufficed the diesel Grenadier's needs. I don't believe Petronas is the sole oil provider. I intend using MANNOL, available at a reasonable price on Fleabay .

I certainly won’t be tied to a particular brand as long as it meets the right specifications

 

[Ever Pragmatic]

I certainly won’t be tied to a particular brand as long as it meets the right specifications

This is the sticker from the engine bay from the diesel variant.

 

[CountyV8]

I had understood any oil meeting SAE 0W-30 API SN ACEA C2/C3 BMW LL-04 BMW LL-12FE sufficed the diesel Grenadier's needs. I don't believe Petronas is the sole oil provider. I intend using MANNOL, available at a reasonable price on Fleabay .

Save £2.00 on an £80.000.00 vehicle

 

[Logsplitter]

https://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/2ED2064FB168D1DE802586D20033648E/$File/wepp-c2x7ve.pdf

 

[Arkaig]

Save £2.00 on an £80.000.00 vehicle

Take care of the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves.

 

[Tom D]

They do a Castrol edge 5w40, probably a good choice.

 

[Tom D]

Castrol also do a 0w40.. But..
It’s important to note that not all oils are DPF compatible. Oils which are height in additives ( to protect the engine) may produce too much ash, the metallic ash builds up in the DPF and causes early failure. So thats something to consider if you’re going off piste with the oil recommendation.
Watching the LR Time video on the disco engine its interesting to note that he says that the 30 grade oils are on the thin side and are chosen to meet emissions regs. I am not sure if this is due to increased viscosity causing increased fuel consumption, which it could. But also increased viscosity causes increased oil consumption (burning) which could lead to DPF damage… Based on the video a 40 grade oil sounds better, especially with all the heavy towing I’ll be doing, but I don’t want to bugger the DPF…

 

[DaveB]

They don't sell Petronas brand oil in the US.

 

[emax]

Take care of the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves.

Greta Schickedanz, the chief executive of a big German concern ("Quelle"), used to say "Der Pfennig ist die Seele der Milliarde." - "The penny is the soul of the billion".

 

[Steve.B]

Castrol also do a 0w40.. But..
It’s important to note that not all oils are DPF compatible. Oils which are height in additives ( to protect the engine) may produce too much ash, the metallic ash builds up in the DPF and causes early failure. So thats something to consider if you’re going off piste with the oil recommendation.
Watching the LR Time video on the disco engine its interesting to note that he says that the 30 grade oils are on the thin side and are chosen to meet emissions regs. I am not sure if this is due to increased viscosity causing increased fuel consumption, which it could. But also increased viscosity causes increased oil consumption (burning) which could lead to DPF damage… Based on the video a 40 grade oil sounds better, especially with all the heavy towing I’ll be doing, but I don’t want to bugger the DPF…

Increased viscosity = more fuel use, but less oil consumption, but obviously better in high temp.
Sir Jim is a chemical engineer so he might off had some input in to oil spec, it is his area of expertise.

 

[WhiteBear]

https://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/2ED2064FB168D1DE802586D20033648E/$File/wepp-c2x7ve.pdf

0W-20
It should be 0W-30, I think.

 

[Tom D]

this is a low SAPS 0w40 should be fine with a DPF…https://www.liqui-moly.com/en/synthoil-energy-sae-0w-40-p000341.html#9514

 

[ECrider]

Sooner Christian and Vera get crowd funded for a Grenadier the better!

 

[DCPU]

No surprise they used Petronas products
Petronas are the title sponsor of the Mercedes F1 team

The Team Welcomes INEOS as a One Third Equal Shareholder Alongside Daimler and Toto Wolff - Mercedes-AMG PETRONAS F1 Team

The Team Welcomes INEOS as a One Third Equal Shareholder Alongside Daimler and Toto Wolff

www.mercedesamgf1.com

It's only for the diesel.

The petrol engine uses oil from Fuchs.

 

[DesertGecko]

I hope it isn't one of those super light oils for fuel economy. What do the BMW car people say?