Build month and delays.....

[Shaky]

I think you are giving some people too much credit. They are not invested in this as much as we are and have just ordered one and when it turns up it turns up. They are not interested in watching videos of the factory or it being driven across a desert.

Just for transparency I haven’t watched it either

 

[emax]

Buying a Grenadier is not the same as buying a bottle of beer. At least not for me. I did watch my video - where my Grenadier still has the wrong color.

It might be good advice to at least take a look ...

 

[acwiltshire]

Don't worry. Let's call it the year you started with the Grenadier, or you ordered it, or you drove it the first time, or it was built.

Very positive...please get a job at ineos call centre

 

[Greasemonkey]

2023 Ineos Grenadier to enter production this month after delays​

Global parts supply shortages have been blamed by newcomer Ineos for a delay in production, but the company has confirmed its Grenadier off-roader will begin manufacturing this month.

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Ben Zachariah
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The first batch of 2023 Ineos Grenadier four-wheel-drives will soon begin rolling down the production line in France, three months later than planned.
Ineos had initially expected to begin building customers’ Grenadiers in July 2022, but was forced to push the production start date to this month following parts delays.
An Ineos spokesperson in Australia told Drive “further information around deliveries globally [will] follow shortly”.
“The fragile supply chains meant that some parts were missing,” an Ineos spokesperson overseas told German publication Automobilwoche.
Parts shortages have been a major headache for car manufacturers over the past two years, with a lack of semiconductor computer chips, pandemic-related shutdowns, shipping issues, and disruptions caused by the Russia-Ukraine conflict all contributing to disrupted supply chains.
Despite the challenges, a spokesperson for the British brand in Australia confirmed to Drive the Grenadier was beginning production this month, as reported internationally.
“The company’s directors and senior management team have stayed informed of the supply conditions to understand the key concerns and [are] reviewing options to overcome potential delays,” the company wrote in its accounts report, according to The Guardian newspaper.
Ineos Automotive reported pre-tax losses of €212 million ($AU327 million) for 2021, contributing to total losses of €506 million ($AU780 million) since the car company began operating in 2017 – with expectations it will begin reversing those losses once vehicles begin to be delivered to customers.
It's not all bad news, with Ineos Automotive founder Sir Jim Ratcliffe also experiencing record revenues in other areas of his multibillion-dollar business empire, UK newspaper The Telegraph reports, with the company’s oil and gas interests bringing in an almost £500 million ($AU881 million) windfall in 2021 thanks to soaring energy prices in Europe.

 

[DCPU]

It could be worse, much worse:

 

[G-Man]

It could be worse, much worse:

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I bought a LR Disco 5 in 2019 that was plagued with water leaks through the roof/windscreen and suffered regular electronics failures as a result. It put me off LR ownership for life, as LR kept patching it up rather than fixing the underlying water ingress problem. If they have similar issues with any of their new models then they must be bricking themselves as they could end up with thousands of warranty repairs laid up for months waiting for replacement electronic parts.

I'm hoping/praying that Ineos have done a better job of making the Grenadier water-tight in all the placers that matter

 

[DCPU]

I'm hoping/praying that Ineos have done a better job of making the Grenadier water-tight in all the placers that matter

Dürr robots apply the bulk of the 120m of PVC sealants, but some must be manually applied. In total 3kg.

So there's a good fighting chance.

 

[JOB]

I'm hoping/praying that Ineos have done a better job of making the Grenadier water-tight in all the placers that matter

I would advise that for the sake of caution you avoid the “safari windows”. They are a swimming pool waiting to happen imo.

 

[ECrider]

You could be right JOB, a la the old defender wet shoulder round corners. However, I love the look of them and hate not having sunroofs. I shall hope they are fot for purpose and if not shall sikaflex them shut!!!

 

[Spjnr]

I would advise that for the sake of caution you avoid the “safari windows”. They are a swimming pool waiting to happen imo.

As much as i really love the Safari windows, thats why i didnt opt for them.

If they prove to be good then ill spec them next time if i chop this one in after a few years..

 

[G-Man]

I would advise that for the sake of caution you avoid the “safari windows”. They are a swimming pool waiting to happen imo.

Damn! I must be a sucker for 4x4’s with leaky roofs as I specced the safari windows again! I figured the guy who designed the Grenadier got his reputation building mega-yachts, he must know how to install a water tight porthole

 

[Manuel4x4]

Reserva 30/09/21
Pedido 30/08/22
España

 

[rovie]

I bought a LR Disco 5 in 2019 that was plagued with water leaks through the roof/windscreen and suffered regular electronics failures as a result. It put me off LR ownership for life, as LR kept patching it up rather than fixing the underlying water ingress problem. If they have similar issues with any of their new models then they must be bricking themselves as they could end up with thousands of warranty repairs laid up for months waiting for replacement electronic parts.

I'm hoping/praying that Ineos have done a better job of making the Grenadier water-tight in all the placers that matter

The most important thing is that it has the water drainage holes in the bottom.
Then it is also allowed to get wet sometimes.

 

[DaveB]

I just configured a LR 110 to as close as possible as my Grenadier.
Grenadier comes to $121,000 on road and has a lot more accessories for a lot less money.

I'm one step closer to my perfect LAND ROVER DEFENDER. See configuration.

LAND ROVER DEFENDER

buildyour.landrover.com.au

 

[DCPU]

Isn't all of the difference, if not more, in the LCT and delivery?

How does stamp duty compare?

There's no real comparison in looks (for me); new Defender always looks like a slightly over-inflated Zeppelin.

 

[rovie]

Isn't all of the difference, if not more, in the LCT and delivery?

How does stamp duty compare?

There's no real comparison in looks (for me); new Defender always looks like a slightly over-inflated Zeppelin.

...for me like a Playmobil toy car.

 

[DaveB]

Isn't all of the difference, if not more, in the LCT and delivery?

How does stamp duty compare?

The Defender doesn't even have the options I have chosen roobar, side steps, raised air intake, front locker(or real locker for rear), extra wiring, second battery, front tow bar, chequerplate. That would add an additional $12K then the LCT and stamp duty would be on top of that.
My base price is $112,340 plus on road costs of $8,819.16, total $121,159.16

 

[DCPU]

I think that's one photo I've not seen yet ~ a vehicle with the side protection rails.

 

[DaveB]

I think that's one photo I've not seen yet ~ a vehicle with the side protection rails.

I am getting as part of my Defense $1,500 of free accessories

 

[ECrider]

I configured a 110 3.0 diesel on Monday as well, just to see what the comparison was. I stopped at £90k+ which was as close as I cld to my IG/what was 'necessary' LR option....felt pleased