Build month and delays.....

[ECrider]

Your contract will come direct from INEOS as it is them who are selling you the car. Same with the final payment, the dealer/agent won't be taking money from you, you will be paying INEOS direct.

Final payment will more than likely be requested once the car lands in the UK to make sure they have cleared funds for when you collect from your preferred agent.

Steve.

Tks Steve . I'll send the dealer a mail when I receive it.

 

[emax]

Your contract will come direct from INEOS as it is them who are selling you the car. Same with the final payment, the dealer/agent won't be taking money from you, you will be paying INEOS direct.

Final payment will more than likely be requested once the car lands in the UK to make sure they have cleared funds for when you collect from your preferred agent.

Steve.

By bank transfer, I guess? At least, my credit card's limit is somewhat below 80K ...

 

[Halliwell Jones Chester]

By bank transfer, I guess? At least, my credit card's limit is somewhat below 80K ...

Don't the exact way yet but I would assume it will be by the way of bank transfer with possibly your order number as reference or straight through your login page via a payment gateway.

Will not be paid direct to the dealer though.

 

[emax]

Thank you, Steve.

> the way of bank transfer with possibly your order number as reference
Best way imho.

> via a payment gateway
For the sake of a 'Lastschrift' (debit advice?) this was OK. But no way for a 'Überweisung' (money transfer?) as this would mean to grant the gateway access to my bank account. The reliability of their online services in no way deserve trust for even a single cent for non-refundable payments.

But that's not your problem, of course. ;-)

 

[Shaky]

I wonder if several of us will have problems getting the final payment through…just like the order debacle !!

 

[bemax]

I wonder if several of us will have problems getting the final payment through…just like the order debacle !!

I am sure you can pay via bank transfer.

 

[emax]

Hope dies last ... ;-)

 

[nickelnoff]

The contract is handled via the dealership or we just wake up one day and its in our inbox?

No hopefully we wake up one day and it's in our drive way

 

[Shaky]

I am sure you can pay via bank transfer.

sorry bemax it was a tongue in cheek comment. I know there will be no problem paying the balance.

 

[bemax]

sorry bemax it was a tongue in cheek comment. I know there will be no problem paying the balance.

At least I can improve those special language skills

 

[DaveB]

Thank you, Steve.

> the way of bank transfer with possibly your order number as reference
Best way imho.

> via a payment gateway
For the sake of a 'Lastschrift' (debit advice?) this was OK. But no way for a 'Überweisung' (money transfer?) as this would mean to grant the gateway access to my bank account. The reliability of their online services in no way deserve trust for even a single cent for non-refundable payments.

But that's not your problem, of course. ;-)

I do direct bank transfers every week with no problem. $10K normal limit but I have had a temporary limit increase twice allowing $50K & $100K. Never a problem. We have OSKO instantaneous transfer so it is in the other account within a minute for most banks. We don't have any credit cards so it makes it much easier when you want to purchase things.

 

[DaveB]

I guess I am very lucky compared to you guys who have been following this for many years. I only found out about the vehicle in February this year, reserved one in March and ordered it in July. I don't want delivery until May/June 2023 so my concern was if it came too early. My build date was April 2023 so I assumed late June delivery. My build date recently changed to March 2023 so now late May early June delivery. Pretty much perfect for me.

 

[emax]

I do direct bank transfers every week with no problem. $10K normal limit but I have had a temporary limit increase twice allowing $50K & $100K. Never a problem. We have OSKO instantaneous transfer so it is in the other account within a minute for most banks. We don't have any credit cards so it makes it much easier when you want to purchase things.

This is a common payment method here in Germany.

A "bank transfer" is something I actively initiate. With a "direct debit" (?), a creditor deducts the money from my account after I have given permission. This is how we usually pay our electricity, car tax, insurance, anything that is recurring.

The important difference is that I can't withdraw a transfer once I've initiated it. But I can object to any direct debit and usually get my money back first.

For some years now, it has also been possible for a company to initiate a transfer for me via a payment portal. In this case, you have to enter the password of your bank account (!) via a so-called 'trusted' and 'encrypted' and God knows what else for security measures protected system. They claim.

This was introduced for convenience, they say: 'you can pay directly, it's safe and convenient'.

Yes, that's true. But the morons all over the world don't realize that they are actually initiating a wire transfer and thus have no chance of ever getting their money back if the payment system has been hacked, the company is a scammer, or the gateway was perhaps written by the developers that programmed the Ineos configurator.

I would never ever let software programmed by I don't know who get the password to my bank account.

This is what I meant above. Just to clarify the difference between the various payment methods and their pitfalls.

 

[DaveB]

This is a common payment method here in Germany.

A "bank transfer" is something I actively initiate. With a "direct debit" (?), a creditor deducts the money from my account after I have given permission. This is how we usually pay our electricity, car tax, insurance, anything that is recurring.

The important difference is that I can't withdraw a transfer once I've initiated it. But I can object to any direct debit and usually get my money back first.

For some years now, it has also been possible for a company to initiate a transfer for me via a payment portal. In this case, you have to enter the password of your bank account (!) via a so-called 'trusted' and 'encrypted' and God knows what else for security measures protected system. They claim.

This was introduced for convenience, they say: 'you can pay directly, it's safe and convenient'.

Yes, that's true. But the morons all over the world don't realize that they are actually initiating a wire transfer and thus have no chance of ever getting their money back if the payment system has been hacked, the company is a scammer, or the gateway was perhaps written by the developers that programmed the Ineos configurator.

I would never ever let software programmed by I don't know who get the password to my bank account.

This is what I meant above. Just to clarify the difference between the various payment methods and their pitfalls.

I agree with you 100%. I don't even do direct debit payments I organise recurring payments from my account myself. I have a separate account for them. Many years ago I had a business loan with ANZ Bank in Australia, which I didn't bank with, and they set up a direct debit from an ANZ account I set up exclusively for that purpose. I deposited funds automatically in the account every month and they would get direct debited to pay the loan. After almost 2 years of running smoothly I didn't pay any attention until a received a letter saying I had defaulted on my loan. I checked my bank and money was going into the ANZ account as usual but the direct debit had stopped 4 months previously. Turns out it was a glitch on their system. I could prove that I was trying to pay it but they still had it as a default and I couldn't do anything about it. It took over a year to sort out and get it off my credit rating. Since then no direct debits.

 

[cheswick]

stupid, narcissistic, moron.

Could describe any political "leader" to be honest - granted this one excels in certain ways

 

[WhiteBear]

They drive me crazy. Now the build date has changed back to September. That is NOW! Can we believe them?

 

[ECrider]

They drive me crazy. Now the build date has changed back to September. That is NOW! Can we believe them?

8.5 days to lay the first bolt - not impossible, my heart is optimistic for you but my head is doubtful!!! Allegedly 4 weeks to build from keel laying to delivery (in Germany) all going well, uce etc etc.

The other planned process was contract signing 60 days out from delivery so either they are building without getting you signed up on the dotted line, or something is wrong on the build date.

However it works out I wish you an earliest as possible delivery, blue skies and fair winds!

 

[dynosoar]

Mine is still down as October build. No sniff of a contract yet.
As a commercial two seat the build may be selected as an easy start perhaps.
A

 

[SoLu]

Reserved: 14 October 2021
Ordered: 31 May 2022
Delivery: March 2023
Country: Austria (not to get confused with Australia!).

 

[ECrider]

just received below (based UK) in answer to my request today to change nappa to leather option (steering wheel/handbrake).

Hi,

Nice to hear from you again, I hope you are having a good week so far.

60 days before your build date you will receive an Email from us asking if you require any additional changes on your vehicle and if you do to click the link contained within it.
Once you click the link you will be contacted by a member of the team and they will go through the changes you desire.

Alternatively you can go into your local dealership and request any changes to them before that date if you so wish.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you need any further assistance.

Thanks,

INEOS Grenadier Customer Service

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So it would appear they still are planning on sending the contracts 60 days prior to build date (mine is Dec so not overdue yet). So unless the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing by that update it would mean earliest build dates are late Nov.

Again very much a moving target and perhaps 60 becomes 30.......