Autumn Test Drives Germany

[DaveB]

Has anyone seen into the engine compartment or even made a photo? Ineos seems to make a big secret what is under the hood.

Justin Hocevar the Australian MD of Ineos made a reply to the question of why won't they let anyone see what is under the bonnet about a month ago. He was a bit guarded on what he could say but from memory it was something like " there are several possible reasons and one of them is that engine or component manufacturers can put an embargo on car companies to not show there products until they are completely finished and have been given permission" I am working from memory and paraphrasing but pretty sure it was words to that effect. I remember them saying they had to remove the plastic dress cover from the engine and had lots of monitoring equipment temporarily there. I can understand if BMW has said they don't want their engine on display until it is wearing it's Sunday best and some make-up.

 

[DCPU]

So far, Justin Hocevar has been very straight taking, so such a politician's answer is unusual.

Of course, he could keep the promise to BMW of not lifting the bonnet for photos of the engine and still deliver for us with a little lateral thinking:

To extend the logic from engine or component manufacturers, then that would cover the full prototype vehicle and Ineos would not be able to show us anything.

Only a guess but I wonder if it's more to do with component shortages and to get these vehicles out they may have cut a corner or two under the bonnet?

The Goodwood vehicle featuring the removeable winch had the High Load Auxiliary Panel but no 2 pin plug which, I think, is part of the pack.

Under the bonnet photo thread:

https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/under-the-bonnet-photos.12410407/

 

[DaveB]

So far, Justin Hocevar has been very straight taking, so such a politician's answer is unusual.

To extend the logic from engine or component manufacturers, then that would cover the full prototype vehicle and Ineos would not be able to show us anything.

Only a guess but I wonder if it's more to do with component shortages and to get these vehicles out they may have cut a corner or two under the bonnet?

The Goodwood vehicle featuring the removeable winch had the High Load Auxiliary Panel but no 2 pin plug which, I think, is part of the pack.

That was why I assumed it was BMW as the only component they have is under the bonnet. It isn't a politicians answer it is a Managing Directors answer. He is hardly going to just say "those arseholes at BMW..." Maybe you are correct and there is a huge component shortage from BMW. Maybe under the bonnet they are hiding a wind up clock mechanism and a speaker making engine noises.

 

[CountyV8]

H iFolks some under the hood/bonnet images I think they are from USA

 

[CountyV8]

This from car sales AU Is. this the final version of the bumper certainly look better then the removable plastic insert.

 

[DCPU]

That is very good to hear. I can't imagine why you would need to confirm engaging the front & rear lockers on the screen.

Is the OP saying you have to action something on the screen or was it just being used to visually confirm they are locked as the icons light up or something?

Not forgetting that the display panel behind the steering wheel also has tell tales for the diff locks.

 

[bemax]

Is the OP saying you have to action something on the screen or was it just being used to visually confirm they are locked as the icons light up or something?

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Not forgetting that the display panel behind the steering wheel also has tell tales for the diff locks.

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The OS askes you politely to confirm via touch screen or the button under the roof

 

[stickshifter]

From: https://outbacktravelaustralia.com.au/buyers-guide-wagons-large/grenadier/

 

[Scan4]

Got one from test-driving

 

[CountyV8]

Got one from test-driving

Oh dear is that plastic????

 

[emax]

Look under the bonnet of any modern car: plastic covers everywhere.

What else should it be? It's only a cover. And it's lightweight.

To be clear, I don't like plastic. But from a technical point of view, it's the best solution. Unfortunately, it can't compete with the longevity of aluminum. But nobody wants to pay for for the latter.

 

[DCPU]

Oh dear is that plastic????

Do you mean the plastic tank crimped on the top of the radiator core?

 

[DaveB]

There are 50,000 plus different polymers that get called plastic. They are all "plastic" in nature and it is up to the design engineers o choose the correct polymer composition to suit the application. Some have reinforcement in them as well such as glass, carbon or nylon fibres.
We manufacture housings in various plastics, aluminium or stainless and often the plastics outperform the metals.

 

[Deleted User Account.]

rovie, do you think it was the rack whistling and just heard better thru the windows or the windows themselves whistling?

I have a duramax with camper shell and two racks on the top that cover the length of the vehicle. I have to keep the sliding headliner closed under the sunroof or the noise from the rack over my head gets very loud. It's 100% the rack noise as I never had the issue before installing it. I won't be putting a rack on the grenadier for that reason.

 

[Arno]

I did it!! IG testdrive yesterday close to Lindau / Bodensee with the same (?) friendly female rally driver, great offroad experience in muddy environment after 3 days of rain not even getting close to the limit of the car, including quick on road experience, overall very positive and re-confirming my IG ordering decision 100%. By the way, one of my very few worries was if I fit in (with 193 cm), and yes, I do!

 

[bemax]

I did it!! IG testdrive yesterday close to Lindau / Bodensee with the same (?) friendly female rally driver, great offroad experience in muddy environment after 3 days of rain not even getting close to the limit of the car, including quick on road experience, overall very positive and re-confirming my IG ordering decision 100%. By the way, one of my very few worries was if I fit in (with 193 cm), and yes, I do!

If your co-driver is dark haired, from Prag and drove the Mitsubish drift challenge etc. than it should be the same.

 

[emax]

> dark haired, from Prag

I think, she was in one of the videos.

 

[Arno]

If your co-driver is dark haired, from Prag and drove the Mitsubish drift challenge etc. than it should be the same.

Thanks, different one then but friendly, too! By the way, following the various ‚plastic‘ discussions (don’t like too much plastic either) it seems based on Ineos staff feedback that specifications are still not finalized and things will change vs. cars used for test rides etc. And yes, seems we all have to be patient till we see the ‚final‘ specs, not even talking about moving delivery dates…

 

[CountyV8]

Do you mean the plastic tank crimped on the top of the radiator core?

yes

 

[CountyV8]

Hi this an engine shot from todays test drive. WHERE IS THE DIPSTICK ????