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Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported vehicles!

Gaffer said:
Perhaps. I suppose you know that BMW, Corning, Intel, Nucor and Samsung among others have announced new plants since the beginning of the year, right?
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Companies announce things all the time. For instance Tesla has announced full self driving/robotaxis being just around the corner for the past 6 years.
 
DaveB said:
Or they can start building solar panels.

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That's to make the "clean coal" lobby happy.

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MattA said:
some commentators in this thread need to watch this video for a reality check
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9NnXqf6s3VY
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That's impressive.

As someone noted in the YT comments, if something is manufactured in China for an export contract and is poor quality or inferior material it's because the foreign buyer chose a price point, ostensibly to undercut their local market and take a bigger margin. They can afford to fund rejects and warranty returns from higher margins and sales volume. Think of Ryobi and Ozito cordless tools sold by Bunnings in Australia. Bunnings sell so much of it they can afford to send returns to landfill, or recycling if I'm optimistic. Almost a single use DIY tool.

Chinese industry will build stuff as good or bad as you want to pay for. That behaviour is not exclusive to the Chinese.

Like the rusting side steps and sliders on Grenadier. Ineos don't make them. EGR make them, in China, to a price that doesn't seem to include metal passivation, priming or ideally powder coating. So they start to rust as soon as the paint is penetrated and we blame Ineos for it because they issued a supplier agreement to EGR. Were Ineos complicit in the pricing (they would not have told EGR to charge more $), or kniave as a new automotive startup? We'll never know.

Rant over. Thanks for posting @MattA
 
Clark Kent said:
That's impressive.

As someone noted in the YT comments, if something is manufactured in China for an export contract and is poor quality or inferior material it's because the foreign buyer chose a price point, ostensibly to undercut their local market and take a bigger margin. They can afford to fund rejects and warranty returns from higher margins and sales volume. Think of Ryobi and Ozito cordless tools sold by Bunnings in Australia. Bunnings sell so much of it they can afford to send returns to landfill, or recycling if I'm optimistic. Almost a single use DIY tool.

Chinese industry will build stuff as good or bad as you want to pay for. That behaviour is not exclusive to the Chinese.

Like the rusting side steps and sliders on Grenadier. Ineos don't make them. EGR make them, in China, to a price that doesn't seem to include metal passivation, priming or ideally powder coating. So they start to rust as soon as the paint is penetrated and we blame Ineos for it because they issued a supplier agreement to EGR. Were Ineos complicit in the pricing (they would not have told EGR to charge more $), or kniave as a new automotive startup? We'll never know.

Rant over. Thanks for posting @MattA
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I have been importing products from all over the world for the last 40 years.
I used to import container loads of 18V cordless drill/drivers and paid around USD$18 each.
They were reasonably good quality with machined gears, Jacobs chuck, Bosch battery.
I was talking to another guy who said he haggled the price down to only USD$9.30 each.
He said it was easy he just demanded the price and they caved.
I laughed and said.......not a chance.... they just supplied you the $9.30 version of the $18.00 drill.
Some time later he contacted me.
He was supplied a container of drills with nylon gears, a no name chuck and a 2 AH battery.
When he complained to the factory they just said they gave him exactly what he asked for.... a container of $9.30 drills.
 
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