Trump tariff. Ineos Automotive is dead right?

HereinDaRockies · Feb 2, 2025

Max said:
I don't understand or is it the wrong punctuation?

Trump tariff. Ineos Automotive is dead right?
Meaning of dead right
Idiom: dead right

Meaning:

This means that something or someone is absolutely correct, without doubt.

Critiquing punctuation in a forum post’s title? Use your imagination.

Tazzieman · Feb 2, 2025

Krabby said:
Let’s eat, grandma. Let’s eat grandma.

Punctuation matters.

1999 - my late mother, bless her innocence and naivety, at Christsmas dinner with the whole family gathered, to my father Richard:
"Would you like some more turkey , Dick?"

To this day it was a Biggus Dickus moment , and I'm not sure how we didn't all die of suppressed laughter.
That moment has never been trumped.

Grandtour_grenadier · Feb 2, 2025

Cheshire cat said:
Anyway. As with most tariffs, there often seems to be a way round them. Might be as straightforward as putting in the seats when the vehicle gets to the US. It can then be classed as 'Built in the US'. A bit like Harley Davidson.

Also maybe an option that DJT doesn’t impose tariffs on the the uk, meaning the company (being British) can circumvent export ms from the uk into the USA. However i do see the US putting tariffs on the EU and vs versa

pmatusov · Feb 2, 2025

Shopkeep said:
giant US made gas guzzling cars, really?

US hasn't made a "giant" car since 2012 (year of demise of Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/Town Car. As far as pickups and SUVs, it's fair game since nobody makes anything like a Suburban.

Clark Kent · Feb 2, 2025

Krabby said:
Let’s eat, grandma. Let’s eat grandma.

Punctuation matters.

Never stop teaching @Krabby

(my wife is a senior teacher. It's a calling, not a vocation)

Zimm · Feb 2, 2025

pmatusov said:
You are once again extrapolating Pittsburgh to the rest of the country.
Not that in the West G-wagen owners are all into off-roading, but there's just enough that are that could make up a half of Grenadier's market. I had multiple conversations with G-wagen owners at C&Cs in SoCal - they were genuinely interested.

When I was waiting for my truck at Mossy Ineos yesterday, I flipped through DuPont Registry. All of the East Coast cars and trucks are for show only - Miami mostly, but the rest follows.

Numbers don’t back you up at all. G wagon sales are up. I was just at the dealer and lockerless units abound. Mercedes can’t keep any Gs on the lot let alone lower models. If Gwagon shoppers shopped grens, they wouldn’t be there. There’s no Gren shortage after 4 month hiatus. They don’t want a car a bronco buyer can afford to drive. It’s just a simple observation. No bias.

Zimm · Feb 2, 2025

Dokatd said:
Gotta say you are way off base! Firstly I own a Gwagon and a Grenadier. Second, when I bought the Gren I was also looking at another G wagon. Third, I live close to and have many friends that live in one of the richest cities in Texas. It's a super small dense area where if you don't drive a 100k plus vehicle then you don't belong. The density of G wagons is kinda nuts. They all love the Grenadier and want to buy one. Sadly most back out after the test drive. Not due to the interior, they seem to love it. But rather the handling (steering).

Regardless, a Gwagon buyer is a prospective Grenadier buyer. Once or if Ineos improves their product they will be set firmly in the G wagon market.

I own a Gwagon too. It doesn’t appear that’s the Delta.

shiv.nandak · Feb 2, 2025

mcdoogs said:
Arcane Works Detour

ineosgrenadier.com

Ok I am flabbergasted at that price lol. 134k pounds (166k USD) for essentially the same truck with a different paint job? This is worse than Porsche!!

Tazzieman · Feb 2, 2025

shiv.nandak said:
Ok I am flabbergasted at that price lol. 134k pounds (166k USD) for essentially the same truck with a different paint job? This is worse than Porsche!!

But you'll be one of only 200, worldwide. The people at the golf club will respect you for your bespoke choices and deep pockets

Make sure to get your name on the puddle lamps.

DaveB · Feb 2, 2025

Ineos has just opened in China and Mexico.
Even if their US sales drop by 50%, or 5,000 vehicles, they will easily make that up in those two markets alone.
Plus once reality hits, and people realise the tariffs are hurting US citizens more than the countries that the tariffs are imposed on, then they will be dropped.
Europe and other places will impose tariffs in return and kill the US export market.
Particularly military equipment.
I wouldn't worry too much about the fate of Ineos Automotive in the US.
There are much more significant things to worry about.

DaveB · Feb 2, 2025

shiv.nandak said:
Ok I am flabbergasted at that price lol. 134k pounds (166k USD) for essentially the same truck with a different paint job? This is worse than Porsche!!

Ferrari charge 30,000 euro to have the name Ferrari painted on your new Ferrari.
And yes lots of customers go for it.

HereinDaRockies · Feb 2, 2025

shiv.nandak said:
Ok I am flabbergasted at that price lol. 134k pounds (166k USD) for essentially the same truck with a different paint job? This is worse than Porsche!!

That truck is a POS. The paint and wheel looks sooo bad.

This poor effort by Ineos is extremely non-confidence inspiring

Emil · Feb 2, 2025

shiv.nandak said:
Ok I am flabbergasted at that price lol. 134k pounds (166k USD) for essentially the same truck with a different paint job? This is worse than Porsche!!

Reminds me of an old joke: Two guys in the elevator note that they are wearing the same tie. „What did you pay?“ „75, you?“ „I win, I paid 100.“

Tazzieman · Feb 2, 2025

Emil said:
Reminds me of an old joke: Two guys in the elevator note that they are wearing the same tie. „What did you pay?“ „75, you?“ „I win, I paid 100.“

Must have been lawyers

View: https://youtu.be/o105pfoOF70?feature=shared

Cheshire cat · Feb 2, 2025

shiv.nandak said:
Would you mind elaborating on this? Ineos is coming out with a more expensive version of the Grenadier? Where can I find more information?

Hi Shiv
I was referring to the recently imposed tariff's

Cheshire cat · Feb 2, 2025

shiv.nandak said:
Ok I am flabbergasted at that price lol. 134k pounds (166k USD) for essentially the same truck with a different paint job? This is worse than Porsche!!

Be interesting to hear from the first forum member who opts for the Arcane. Cost is always relative I guess.

Coullabus · Feb 2, 2025

Cheshire cat said:
Trump has come in to with a goal of shock and awe. I guess the American people will have to accept that foreign items, for many will no longer be attainable. Let's hope it all works out.

Trump will do damage to the Scotch Whisky industry.........

Cheshire cat · Feb 2, 2025

Coullabus said:
Trump will do damage to the Scotch Whisky industry.........

As it appears to many of us from outside the US. Trump is now 'THE' US Government. There are no longer any checks & balances to stop him behaving how he feels. If he likes Whiskey and its associations with his two Scottish Golf Clubs, he will make an exception. Regardless of rules and regulations, his exceptions will stand.
All very sad really, or am I being too cynical?

Eric · Feb 2, 2025

Coullabus said:
Trump will do damage to the Scotch Whisky industry.........

Ah, but they will have surplus so they can release it cheaper on the UK market.

Tom D · Feb 2, 2025

If The UK does a deal with The US there might be a way forward. We are no longer in the EU remember.
However we have a government who hate Trump and would like us to re-join the EU.. so a deal is unlikely..

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HereinDaRockies

I don't understand or is it the wrong punctuation?