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It has to be a 1N4004Any info on the diode type/specs?
That is the go to for everything since I did my training back in 1978
It has to be a 1N4004Any info on the diode type/specs?
Not too sure will depend on the draw of all the lights on the circuit... I'll be looking at 6amp diodes which should be heaps but I'll add all the lights up to be sure (if I can find the info of each light that is but mine are LED so won't be too much so I might go smaller.)Any info on the diode type/specs?
1N4004 only good for 1Amp continuous from memoryNot too sure will depend on the draw of all the lights on the circuit... I'll be looking at 6amp diodes which should be heaps but I'll add all the lights up to be sure (if I can find the info of each light that is but mine are LED so won't be too much so I might go smaller.)
Pin 12 for electric brakes was also what I was told by Ineos Australia last year…….. but if pin 12 is missing on the vehicle side, what pin will they use? Pin 2 seems to be the consensus option for other makes with a 13 pin EU plug.Ineos Australia responded to my trailer socket/plug question which was most welcome. (Thanks Justin)
For Australia the brake controller wire (service brake) will be allocated to pin 12 on the Euro socket.
If you wish to retain the old Aussie 7 flat plug on your trailer (which really defeats the purpose of having the best trailer socket on the car and worst plug on the trailer IMHO ) then a quality 13 to 7 adaptor will work. This would mean buying an adaptor that has the diodes built in and I believe the Narva one has this - some of the cheap ones might or might not have diodes.. who knows...
If your trailer/caravan has left and right side light and tail lights joined together which is typical in Australia and you wish to change your trailer/caravan plug to the far superior 13 Euro plug, then you will need to buy the 13 Euro plug and put diodes in the wires of the side/tail lights that are joined so there is no voltage feedback to the vehicle.
Ineos recommend leaving the vehicle as standard which means placing the diodes in the wiring of the trailer/caravan. Easy as. Here's an example I found of two diodes in a 7 flat socket - just an example as mine will be the 13 Euro round trailer plug. Hope this helps the trailer wire situ in Aus at least.
On an aside... your brake controller will likely need a diode also and if you are using Redarc it is placed in the red wire. (redarc sell their diode with instructions)
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Hi @DaBullHi TomDoc, Just for clarification, in regard to the vehicle female socket, the diagram at your post 11 is looking directly at the
female plug from standing at the rear of the vehicle and your post of the female plug at your post 8 is looking at it from the
backside of the female plug. Reason I am asking is those two diagrams are mirror reversed if you look closely. One from one
view Rear towards front and the other front towards rear. Please clarify if you can what view if post 8 from and what view is post
11 from. Thanks, DaBull
Interesting enough, I've converted all my plug/sockets to the 13 Euro years ago, tired of the faults/falling out etc and in doing so wired my service brakes to pin 2 as you said. But that was just luck that I used pin 2 in that I had no need for the fog light and swapped many other pins around to cater for rear van camera - but it's unique for my vehicle and I keep a diagram in the glovebox - not ideal. If we were to keep the vehicle socket standard (to EU) as in the 13 Euro diagram, the only 'spare' pin is 12 so makes sense using this for the brake controller. Yes you'll have to supply your own pins to fill some of the vacant ones and maybe Redarc or whoever supplies a harness for their controller might throw this in but I've ordered another maypole socket for around $20au and will take the pins from that or more likely swap the socket out completely (as I'll still be sorting the vans rear camera). It would be interesting to see how the Narva adaptor works i.e. what pin in the Euro plug does pin 5 (brakes) of the Aussie plug relate to?Pin 12 for electric brakes was also what I was told by Ineos Australia last year…….. but if pin 12 is missing on the vehicle side, what pin will they use? Pin 2 seems to be the consensus option for other makes with a 13 pin EU plug.
Cheers
Steve
Great find.
I'm trying to match up this drawing to the parts they list.
Socket housing with cover 781 300 100 x 1
Contact sleeve 1-2,5mm² 781 200 820 x 3 (or smaller size)
Single wire seal 1-2,5mm² 781 200 840 x 3 (or smaller size)
Being the bits that are required if you can't just get the 3 additional pins to inject (press?) into the existing socket housing?
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Plastimat Perfect USC p 13 - Plastimat GmbH
Plastimat ist Hersteller von Leitpfosten, Reflektoren, Steckverbindungen für Anhängezugverbindungen im PKW wie auch NFZ-Bereich.www.plastimat.de
Great find.
I'm trying to match up this drawing to the parts they list.
Socket housing with cover 781 300 100 x 1
Contact sleeve 1-2,5mm² 781 200 820 x 3 (or smaller size)
Single wire seal 1-2,5mm² 781 200 840 x 3 (or smaller size)
Being the bits that are required if you can't just get the 3 additional pins to inject (press?) into the existing socket housing?
View attachment 7826310
View attachment 7826312
Plastimat Perfect USC p 13 - Plastimat GmbH
Plastimat ist Hersteller von Leitpfosten, Reflektoren, Steckverbindungen für Anhängezugverbindungen im PKW wie auch NFZ-Bereich.www.plastimat.de
Hi,Ineos Australia responded to my trailer socket/plug question which was most welcome. (Thanks Justin)
For Australia the brake controller wire (service brake) will be allocated to pin 12 on the Euro socket.
If you wish to retain the old Aussie 7 flat plug on your trailer (which really defeats the purpose of having the best trailer socket on the car and worst plug on the trailer IMHO ) then a quality 13 to 7 adaptor will work. This would mean buying an adaptor that has the diodes built in and I believe the Narva one has this - some of the cheap ones might or might not have diodes.. who knows...
If your trailer/caravan has left and right side light and tail lights joined together which is typical in Australia and you wish to change your trailer/caravan plug to the far superior 13 Euro plug, then you will need to buy the 13 Euro plug and put diodes in the wires of the side/tail lights that are joined so there is no voltage feedback to the vehicle.
Ineos recommend leaving the vehicle as standard which means placing the diodes in the wiring of the trailer/caravan. Easy as. Here's an example I found of two diodes in a 7 flat socket - just an example as mine will be the 13 Euro round trailer plug. Hope this helps the trailer wire situ in Aus at least.
On an aside... your brake controller will likely need a diode also and if you are using Redarc it is placed in the red wire. (redarc sell their diode with instructions)
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