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I guess us 4X4 owners are our own worst enemy. Each person trying to 1-up the next and having to upscale tyres in the process. But it's true - gotta get the tyre that works.
 
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285/75/17 KO3s. No rubbing noticed. Love the look and driving feel. Heck, I just love the vehicle.
 

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285/75/17 KO3s. No rubbing noticed. Love the look and driving feel. Heck, I just love the vehicle.
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And these are with stock 17inch steely wheels? No offset tweak?
 
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Ferrugenfish said:
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In all honesty, INEOS hasn't built this as a bronco/wrangler competitor. 35s are not needed for any workplace, overland trip, or other utility usage. The only place where big tires are NEEDED, are arctic expeditions etc. I had a wrangler on 35s, it looked great, but realistically never needed anymore than 33s to go anywhere.

35s with a small lift etc is still better than most other 4x4s. but ill be sticking with 33s on mine!
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You're not lying. I think it's just cause I think I'll only be able to afford one new car in my life lol and it's so rare I want it to have everything... rock crawling AND towing, for example. But just like everything else... it's gotta be pros and cons, not pros and pros. BUT... I do think a vehicle that weighs as much as the Grenadier would do well with wider 35's... it's a HEAVY GIRL. 35's are the new 33's. I'll be satisfied with 33s... but do think the ability to place 35's without cutting should be built in.
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It would take some real ignorance to compare an Ineos to a bronco or jeep.
 
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WJG-GMT II said:
You're not lying. I think it's just cause I think I'll only be able to afford one new car in my life lol and it's so rare I want it to have everything... rock crawling AND towing, for example. But just like everything else... it's gotta be pros and cons, not pros and pros. BUT... I do think a vehicle that weighs as much as the Grenadier would do well with wider 35's... it's a HEAVY GIRL. 35's are the new 33's. I'll be satisfied with 33s... but do think the ability to place 35's without cutting should be built in.
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It would take some real ignorance to compare an Ineos to a bronco or jeep.
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I does take 35’s without cutting anything on stock suspension. Do your research on wider tires versus pizza cutters. When you air down a pizza cutter it gives a similar contact patch area to a wider tire aired down but the patch shape is different. The pizza cutter has a longer contact patch which is preferential off road. On road, the pizza cutter is substantially lighter and narrower both of witch help with fuel economy acceleration.
 
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Adding to everything @Commodore said about pizzacutter advantages:
  • quieter
  • lighter, easier turning & better steering return (I have no desire for a steering damper now)
  • better wet traction
  • generally better snow traction
  • less drivetrain strain for a given diameter (rotational mass)
I would expect them to be worse in deep sand. Pros and cons, as you say, @WJG-GMT II (y)
 
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holdmybeer said:
Adding to everything @Commodore said about pizzacutter advantages:
  • quieter
  • lighter, easier turning & better steering return (I have no desire for a steering damper now)
  • better wet traction
  • generally better snow traction
  • less drivetrain strain for a given diameter (rotational mass)
I would expect them to be worse in deep sand. Pros and cons, as you say, @WJG-GMT II (y)
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I tried out pizza cutters on my GU Patrol to specifically target better soft sand performance but I went back to 285s with the same 33“ diameter as I found the car a bit too „slidey“ on gravel compared to the 285s.
 
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Commodore said:
The pizza cutter has a longer contact patch which is preferential off road.
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Along that same line of thinking, I expect pizza cutters have a disadvantage when off camber and on rocks, where the lack of width can make it easier for the tire to slip off a rock laterally. I have the DuraTrac RT in 255/80R17 which has been great in the Sierras. I’ll see how well they do in Moab.
 
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FrankieJ said:
I tried out pizza cutters on my GU Patrol to specifically target better soft sand performance but I went back to 285s with the same 33“ diameter as I found the car a bit too „slidey“ on gravel compared to the 285s.
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Along that same line of thinking, I expect pizza cutters have a disadvantage when off camber and on rocks, where the lack of width can make it easier for the tire to slip off a rock laterally. I have the DuraTrac RT in 255/80R17 which has been great in the Sierras. I’ll see how well they do in Moab.
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So here in CO, where I’d more likely encounter gravel/dirt roads and rocks, pizza cutters might not be the best? Pizza cutters for overlanding?

I do think that pizza cutter look more at home on an IG/Defender, for historical reasons, versus on a Jeep, especially a modern one.
 
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The advantage of 35’s is roll over, and sidewall depth necessary for airing down. If you want more contact patch softer rubber and a lesser load range is your friend, but at the risk of puncture. If you stuck people in the same car with 255 or 285, unless it’s a manual steering box, no one is telling the difference. It’s all placebo.

Just Get what hits that magic combo of working/fitting while making ypu happy to look at your rig.
 
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TNT647 said:
just went with 285/65-18 BFGoodrich KO2
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Hi there,
Just picked up my Grenadier and I am now looking at tyres. I am looking at installing these exact tyres (same wheel design too) and wondered how they have been for you? Thank you, James.
 
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Hi there,
Just picked up my Grenadier and I am now looking at tyres. I am looking at installing these exact tyres (same wheel design too) and wondered how they have been for you? Thank you, James.
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Perfect for me (mostly paved roads and occasional unpaved roads). I have ~5k miles on the tires with no rub or modification to the vehicle. Only issue is the TPMS sensor was triggered and stayed on till about ~4k into driving…finally, it was corrected automatically.
 
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Perfect for me (mostly paved roads and occasional unpaved roads). I have ~5k miles on the tires with no rub or modification to the vehicle. Only issue is the TPMS sensor was triggered and stayed on till about ~4k into driving…finally, it was corrected automatically.
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Amazing - thank you. That’s good to hear before I get them fitted! I’ll ask the installer to take care with the TPMS side of things..!
 
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255/85r17 Mickey T Baja AT. stock 17” steelies. Stock springs. 1000lbs of overland gear. No rub. Raises truck 2 1/8” @36F 40R psi compared to stock 265/70R17 BFGs.
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And still no rub aired down to 22F and 26R psi in the sand on the stops
 

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I’ve just installed Falken Wildpeak AT3WA’s in 275/65 R18 on the stock 18” alloys. They have improved the stability and handling dramatically over the stock Bridgestone 255/70 R18 that came on my Fieldmaster. I went with this size to increase the tyre width but keep the vehicle height the same (https://tiresize.com/comparison/).

Falken also offer a handy tyre pressure confirmation for different weights of the vehicle. I’ve attached the standard weight vs the max axle load weights for information.
 

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jamesl175 said:
Falken also offer a handy tyre pressure confirmation for different weights of the vehicle. I’ve attached the standard weight vs the max axle load weights for information.
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Do you have a link to that Falken pressure chart, please? (For other sizes.)

Absolutely loving my Falkens also. Mine wears A/T4W in 255/80R17 on the stock steelies. I prefer narrow for wet road and wet snow performance, based on where I drive, and as a bonus the steering lightness/return also improved.
 
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