Roof wiring for Baja s2

Overland Hunter said:

Looking for some help regarding installing roof lights. I've purchased a pair of Baja s2 to mount. I've attempted to install them today but struggled with the connection being a little loose. I think the connections on my rig are slightly bigger (barrel for wire) than the one I have with my deutch connection kit I got online? Also using
supplied opposite end doesn't seem to lock the wires in as well as the kit I've used in the past for interior connections in the footwell. Fairly new to all this. Am I wrong in thinking there are different size barrels ? If so does anyone know the size Ineos uses. Hopefully this made sense
Thanks in advance

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This is what I used for my S2s.​

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JRready ST6138 DTP 2 Pin Connector Kit 12 Guage 14 Guage Waterproof Connector with Size 12 Solid Contact 12-14 AWG, 2 Sets​

TheDocAUS said:

PLUG COMPATIBILITY
That would mean a genuine Deutsch DTP plug (INEOS side) and a third party brand plug on the other, which can explain why they are a bit loose. I have seen this with genuine Anderson plugs verse third party brands.

That style of crimper normally works well.

You could change the rooftop plug to your third party brand and see if that fixes the problem.

LOCK IN PINS/SOCKETS
The other cause maybe the pins and sockets are not locked correctly in the plugs. The Wurth video, below, talks about locking the pins/sockets into place. Here is a cross section of the DT style plug showing what is going on (image shows a crimped open style socket). If the pins/sockets are not locked in, the plugs do not work properly.

View: https://youtu.be/GQs7EPzDOak

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QRgren said:

This is what I used for my S2s.​

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JRready ST6138 DTP 2 Pin Connector Kit 12 Guage 14 Guage Waterproof Connector with Size 12 Solid Contact 12-14 AWG, 2 Sets​

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08K4GXRCN?tag=globalgrena0b-20

Crimping tool

Amazon.com

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QRgren said:

This is what I used for my S2s.​

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JRready ST6138 DTP 2 Pin Connector Kit 12 Guage 14 Guage Waterproof Connector with Size 12 Solid Contact 12-14 AWG, 2 Sets​

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08K4GXRCN?tag=globalgrena0b-20

Crimping tool

Amazon.com

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TheDocAUS said:

PLUG COMPATIBILITY
That would mean a genuine Deutsch DTP plug (INEOS side) and a third party brand plug on the other, which can explain why they are a bit loose. I have seen this with genuine Anderson plugs verse third party brands.

That style of crimper normally works well.

You could change the rooftop plug to your third party brand and see if that fixes the problem.

LOCK IN PINS/SOCKETS
The other cause maybe the pins and sockets are not locked correctly in the plugs. The Wurth video, below, talks about locking the pins/sockets into place. Here is a cross section of the DT style plug showing what is going on (image shows a crimped open style socket). If the pins/sockets are not locked in, the plugs do not work properly.

View: https://youtu.be/GQs7EPzDOak

MORE INFORMATION:
This thread here has lots of information on Deutsch plugs, including the different types, the various accessories for the plugs, crimping tools, videos, pictures, pin/socket removal from the Deutsch plug and links to suppliers in various countries. A summary is in the first post on the thread. Plus there are other useful posts in the thread, for example:

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Disco Dave said:

Am I missing something? Isn’t the red positive, or did I wire mine up back to front?

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Austin-TX-Grenadier said:

QRgren, I just ordered these as well for my 4 bd S2Pros. Can you recommend a good video that shows the overall process of converting the S2's plugs to DTP? Just wondering if I need to cut any wires on the S2.

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QRgren said:

I did not cut the wires on the S2. I carefully disassembled the DT connector and was left with exposed wire to use for the DTP plug.

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QRgren said:

There isn’t a specific video for S2s. I used this if you need a reference.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HYOZLAmVqRw

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QRgren said:

I did not cut the wires on the S2. I carefully disassembled the DT connector and was left with exposed wire to use for the DTP plug.

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QRgren said:

I did not cut any plastic. Pic shows the parts you are dealing with. I used a small pry tool to work out the orange pieces.

Edit: push from the inside where you see the prongs - small flat head
Edit 2: you may also need to depress the wings on the metal connectors with needle nose pliers and then push
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Austin-TX-Grenadier said:

I took apart the S2's and just waiting on the DTP Connector Kit from Amazon. Thinking I need to ensure the existing metal pins are the correct size for the DTP "Male" that will ultimately go into the roof outlet. When you took apart your S2's did you get rid of the existing metal pins?

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Austin-TX-Grenadier said:

I took apart the S2's and just waiting on the DTP Connector Kit from Amazon. Thinking I need to ensure the existing metal pins are the correct size for the DTP "Male" that will ultimately go into the roof outlet. When you took apart your S2's did you get rid of the existing metal pins?

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