Trifecta of Annoyance - ADAS, TPMS & Tire Rotations, Engine Oil Service Reset

C-Mack · Sep 30, 2024

All three topics have been discussed around the forum but is there really any hope for what I’m calling the “Trifecta of Annoyance” issues that these will be fixed anytime soon? I would prefer not to be clicked to death by nanny state speed warnings, or having to make pointless (hundred of miles) trips to the dealer for doing responsible owner basic maintenance work which shouldn’t require the dealer resetting something. So much goodness about the Grenadier but these three issues just drive me bonkers.

What’s on your “Trifecta of Annoyance” list you wish was being address by Ineos?

Reducs · Sep 30, 2024

Zimm · Sep 30, 2024

Kind of a rehash.

What would you say if you could ?

I'll say again less bongs or at least stop them and the Manual. Hi Année

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Bruce B · Oct 1, 2024

I could not care less! The speed warning can be turned off, just like the start stop function. I fully believe that the maintenance reminders will be addressed at some point and if it takes them time, the rest of the package more than makes up for the annoyance.
Every single vehicle forum has posts like this. Ford, General Motors, Mercedes Benz, VW/Audi, Toyota and every single other vehicle out there has something that bothers someone. There is no such thing as a perfect vehicle… Enjoy what you have for what it is and wait for the promised software updates.
My apologies if I seem cranky… I am so thrilled with the premise of this design that I’ll tolerate a few bumps along the road to ownership.

parb · Oct 1, 2024

"the trifecta of irritants"... I like that sentence...!

Lets make a t-shirt and send to each exec... Speed warning, TPMS relearn and oil change reset. This year please!
These are all very rational and simple requests, things you would want when you are on a great adventure.

C-Mack · Oct 1, 2024

parb said:
"the trifecta of irritants"... I like that sentence...!

Lets make a t-shirt and send to each exec... Speed warning, TPMS relearn and oil change reset. This year please!
These are all very rational and simple requests, things you would want when you are on a great adventure.

Of course, I'm confident they are indeed working on updates and as I stated earlier they really are just annoyances which are only made more obvious as the rest of the vehicle is so damn good. For the Grenadier to be as good as it is out of the box is an amazing accomplishment for a new brand/vehicle. Certainly want to give them the time to make their software updates as I am sure other owners like being able to maintain their own vehicles and avoid trips to dealers for things they can easily handle themselves is my main point.

Shopkeep · Oct 1, 2024

You have only recently received your Grenadier, I would not be focussing on issues that are not immediately relevant and enjoy the next year driving this unique and captivating vehicle. Sure the ADAS sucks (and I am glad my Gren does not have it) but worry about the TPMS and service reset when you actually have to. By the time your first service is due they may have a solution.

I find for every one item of annoyance there ten items of delight. Accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative!

C-Mack · Oct 1, 2024

Shopkeep said:
You have only recently received your Grenadier, I would not be focussing on issues that are not immediately relevant and enjoy the next year driving this unique and captivating vehicle. Sure the ADAS sucks (and I am glad my Gren does not have it) but worry about the TPMS and service reset when you actually have to. By the time your first service is due they may have a solution.

I find for every one item of annoyance there ten items of delight. Accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative!

Don't disagree... things will get better with time and enjoying it as is for now!!

grnamin · Oct 1, 2024

Click
Click
Bong

HereinDaRockies · Oct 2, 2024

Working heat and ac.

bikesandguitars · Oct 2, 2024

Were these issues not known when you bought the vehicle?

I just had my first service done. My dealer / service center is 127 miles from me. Thats exactly where they were when I bought the vehicle. I wasn’t surprised by the inconvenience.

The cost was $590 with tax. They changed engine oil, differentials and remappped my TPMS after rotating my tires. They gave me a loaner Grenadier while they did the work. It was a base model. It was Sela Green. I wanted to buy that one too…

The service network, like Range Rover’s, will likely always be inconvenient for most. The ADAS is supposed to be in the works. But please realize, it’s literally two button pushes to deactivate the speed warning. Personally, I eat one extra Cheerio each day to offset the caloric output these button pushes require.

I guess the top of my Trifecta of Annoyance list would include the folks that bought a Grenadier and immediately complain that it doesn’t turn like a sports car, have power seats or rear cup holders , can’t be serviced at Jiiffy Lube, etc.,

The exclusive nature of the Grenadier, quirks included, is my main reason for buying them. Exclusive brands are rarely found in locations that are convenient for most people.

IslandFalconer · Oct 6, 2024

bikesandguitars said:
Were these issues not known when you bought the vehicle?

I just had my first service done. My dealer / service center is 127 miles from me. Thats exactly where they were when I bought the vehicle. I wasn’t surprised by the inconvenience.

The cost was $590 with tax. They changed engine oil, differentials and remappped my TPMS after rotating my tires. They gave me a loaner Grenadier while they did the work. It was a base model. It was Sela Green. I wanted to buy that one too…

The service network, like Range Rover’s, will likely always be inconvenient for most. The ADAS is supposed to be in the works. But please realize, it’s literally two button pushes to deactivate the speed warning. Personally, I eat one extra Cheerio each day to offset the caloric output these button pushes require.

I guess the top of my Trifecta of Annoyance list would include the folks that bought a Grenadier and immediately complain that it doesn’t turn like a sports car, have power seats or rear cup holders , can’t be serviced at Jiiffy Lube, etc.,

The exclusive nature of the Grenadier, quirks included, is my main reason for buying them. Exclusive brands are rarely found in locations that are convenient for most people.

At the top of my list of annoyances is people who think it’s ok to have a bloody annoying vehicle and telling people who find it bloody annoying that they should just “deal with it” I can tell you right now when my customers have a complaint I don’t tell them to just “deal with it” and this isn’t the only thread where people are beyond unhappy with all the Dings, bongs, clicks and noises. Or the fact that in most places there are laws preventing Dealership only service options LIKE CANADA AND THE USA. So if you’re happy to eat a Cheerio and be happy that’s good for you. You certainly don’t need to pop in to a thread and tell the people who are unhappy they should just suck it up. Ineos has my truck right now. And I have a loaner that doesn’t make any bings, bongs, clicks. And I’ve made it 100% clear to Ineos that my truck stays at the dealer until they fix all its issues, and turn off the noise and lights that weren’t even part of my order. So you’re more than welcome to accept absolute stupidity all you want. I think that those of us who are unhappy with the nonsense are completely allowed to be. Without the Ineos Fanboys telling us how much they love being annoyed by stupidity.

Andrew Kilby · Oct 6, 2024

IslandFalconer said:
At the top of my list of annoyances is people who think it’s ok to have a bloody annoying vehicle and telling people who find it bloody annoying that they should just “deal with it” I can tell you right now when my customers have a complaint I don’t tell them to just “deal with it” and this isn’t the only thread where people are beyond unhappy with all the Dings, bongs, clicks and noises. Or the fact that in most places there are laws preventing Dealership only service options LIKE CANADA AND THE USA. So if you’re happy to eat a Cheerio and be happy that’s good for you. You certainly don’t need to pop in to a thread and tell the people who are unhappy they should just suck it up. Ineos has my truck right now. And I have a loaner that doesn’t make any bings, bongs, clicks. And I’ve made it 100% clear to Ineos that my truck stays at the dealer until they fix all its issues, and turn off the noise and lights that weren’t even part of my order. So you’re more than welcome to accept absolute stupidity all you want. I think that those of us who are unhappy with the nonsense are completely allowed to be. Without the Ineos Fanboys telling us how much they love being annoyed by stupidity.

I agree 100%. Quirks I can deal with but fundamental things like TMS correction when changing tyres, service warning light when a service has been done by a third party is just poor management.

Andrew Kilby · Oct 6, 2024

IslandFalconer said:
At the top of my list of annoyances is people who think it’s ok to have a bloody annoying vehicle and telling people who find it bloody annoying that they should just “deal with it” I can tell you right now when my customers have a complaint I don’t tell them to just “deal with it” and this isn’t the only thread where people are beyond unhappy with all the Dings, bongs, clicks and noises. Or the fact that in most places there are laws preventing Dealership only service options LIKE CANADA AND THE USA. So if you’re happy to eat a Cheerio and be happy that’s good for you. You certainly don’t need to pop in to a thread and tell the people who are unhappy they should just suck it up. Ineos has my truck right now. And I have a loaner that doesn’t make any bings, bongs, clicks. And I’ve made it 100% clear to Ineos that my truck stays at the dealer until they fix all its issues, and turn off the noise and lights that weren’t even part of my order. So you’re more than welcome to accept absolute stupidity all you want. I think that those of us who are unhappy with the nonsense are completely allowed to be. Without the Ineos Fanboys telling us how much they love being annoyed by stupidity.

And BTW where are the service manuals we were promised.

Bruce B · Oct 6, 2024

IslandFalconer said:
At the top of my list of annoyances is people who think it’s ok to have a bloody annoying vehicle and telling people who find it bloody annoying that they should just “deal with it” I can tell you right now when my customers have a complaint I don’t tell them to just “deal with it” and this isn’t the only thread where people are beyond unhappy with all the Dings, bongs, clicks and noises. Or the fact that in most places there are laws preventing Dealership only service options LIKE CANADA AND THE USA. So if you’re happy to eat a Cheerio and be happy that’s good for you. You certainly don’t need to pop in to a thread and tell the people who are unhappy they should just suck it up. Ineos has my truck right now. And I have a loaner that doesn’t make any bings, bongs, clicks. And I’ve made it 100% clear to Ineos that my truck stays at the dealer until they fix all its issues, and turn off the noise and lights that weren’t even part of my order. So you’re more than welcome to accept absolute stupidity all you want. I think that those of us who are unhappy with the nonsense are completely allowed to be. Without the Ineos Fanboys telling us how much they love being annoyed by stupidity.

You are a kind of angry guy huh?

bikesandguitars · Oct 6, 2024

IslandFalconer said:
At the top of my list of annoyances is people who think it’s ok to have a bloody annoying vehicle and telling people who find it bloody annoying that they should just “deal with it” I can tell you right now when my customers have a complaint I don’t tell them to just “deal with it” and this isn’t the only thread where people are beyond unhappy with all the Dings, bongs, clicks and noises. Or the fact that in most places there are laws preventing Dealership only service options LIKE CANADA AND THE USA. So if you’re happy to eat a Cheerio and be happy that’s good for you. You certainly don’t need to pop in to a thread and tell the people who are unhappy they should just suck it up. Ineos has my truck right now. And I have a loaner that doesn’t make any bings, bongs, clicks. And I’ve made it 100% clear to Ineos that my truck stays at the dealer until they fix all its issues, and turn off the noise and lights that weren’t even part of my order. So you’re more than welcome to accept absolute stupidity all you want. I think that those of us who are unhappy with the nonsense are completely allowed to be. Without the Ineos Fanboys telling us how much they love being annoyed by stupidity.

Based on the number of keystroke entries / button pushes that you used on this post, you could’ve turned off the ADAS overspeed warning every day, twice a day for over three years. Maybe better time management would ease the burden of the ADAS system?

As for the “annoying vehicle”, between the two of us, you’re the only one that laid out the cash to own one. I knew what I was buying beforehand. I’m 100% annoyance free.

Enjoy your Cheerios. You’ve earned a whole bowl!

bikesandguitars · Oct 6, 2024

Andrew Kilby said:
And BTW where are the service manuals we were promised.

What date were you promised them by?

IslandFalconer · Oct 6, 2024

bikesandguitars said:
Based on the number of keystroke entries / button pushes that you used on this post, you could’ve turned off the ADAS overspeed warning every day, twice a day for over three years. Maybe better time management would ease the burden of the ADAS system?

As for the “annoying vehicle”, between the two of us, you’re the only one that laid out the cash to own one. I knew what I was buying beforehand. I’m 100% annoyance free.

Enjoy your Cheerios. You’ve earned a whole bowl!

Based on your inability to understand that people are more than within their right to be frustrated by this vehicle. And fanboys who are happy to accept nonsense every day. I really could care less about your opinion. Wow you start your mall crawler twice a day. I spend 16 hours a day in my work truck. Not driving it to my little office job where you very likely show off your fancy truck as some show piece of your wealth. Meanwhile I deal with utter bull shit daily with a truck that has nothing but pre start cycles dozens of times a day. So you make your little commute every day, and be content to drink the Ineos fanboy koolaid. Those of us who have a vehicle that we use, that we expect to behave like the 100k vehicle we purchased. Those of us that expect Ineos to fix the bloody nonsense we never ordered. So keep being a fanboy and let those of us who are annoyed by this nonsense deal with it. Since you obviously sleep in your truck at night and cuddle with it. Go eat your cheriois, let the adults solve the issues you refuse to believe exist

Tom D · Oct 6, 2024

I have had older cars with many more annoying bings and bongs than the Grenadier. Ford ranger for example. The service reset is currently annoying me...

IslandFalconer · Oct 6, 2024

Tom D said:
I have had older cars with many more annoying bings and bongs than the Grenadier. Ford ranger for example. The service reset is currently annoying me...

Turn your key to the on position without staring. Pres both brake and gas pedal to the floor at the same time for 20 seconds. Release and start the engine. Service light should be off.

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