Diagnostic device

Richalo · Sep 9, 2024

Hi Everyone, I have a 2022 Grenadier here Diesel airbag light is on, I have tried Autel, Launch and Snapon, none will communicate with anything but the engine control module, which diagnostic tool can I use that will see and scan all modules on the Grenadier?

Logsplitter · Sep 9, 2024

Richalo said:
Hi Everyone, I have a 2022 Grenadier here Diesel airbag light is on, I have tried Autel, Launch and Snapon, none will communicate with anything but the engine control module, which diagnostic tool can I use that will see and scan all modules on the Grenadier?

There isn’t one yet apparently and you’ve got quite a journey to your nearest dealership I can see

ADVAW8S · Sep 9, 2024

Richalo said:
Hi Everyone, I have a 2022 Grenadier here Diesel airbag light is on, I have tried Autel, Launch and Snapon, none will communicate with anything but the engine control module, which diagnostic tool can I use that will see and scan all modules on the Grenadier?

Here is a tool from expedition HQ.

View: https://youtu.be/p1SiiDPapgk?si=NfZv9lMTjbUJW2Mn

Logsplitter · Sep 9, 2024

ADVAW8S said:
Here is a tool from expedition HQ.

View: https://youtu.be/p1SiiDPapgk?si=NfZv9lMTjbUJW2Mn

Does this really work on the Grenadier to clear faults ?

anand · Sep 9, 2024

Logsplitter said:
Does this really work on the Grenadier to clear faults ?

Based on the screen shot of the device on their website, it is only for engine codes

Tazzieman · Sep 9, 2024

Have you tried toggling the menu on case it's a software glitch?
From a previous thread:

"toggle the "Passenger Air Bag" function On or Off, do the following:
1. Make sure the Engine is On.
2. Pull the Handbrake on.
3. Go to Settings>Vehicle Functions>Passenger Air Bag Off>.
4. Tuggle the switch to the right (On) or to the left (Off) on the "Passenger Air Bag Off". Then...
5. A pop-up message will appear: "Please press the brake pedal for 3 seconds". Do that, then you'll get...
6. "Operation successful!".

Logsplitter · Sep 9, 2024

Tazzieman said:
Have you tried toggling the menu on case it's a software glitch?
From a previous thread:

"toggle the "Passenger Air Bag" function On or Off, do the following:
1. Make sure the Engine is On.
2. Pull the Handbrake on.
3. Go to Settings>Vehicle Functions>Passenger Air Bag Off>.
4. Tuggle the switch to the right (On) or to the left (Off) on the "Passenger Air Bag Off". Then...
5. A pop-up message will appear: "Please press the brake pedal for 3 seconds". Do that, then you'll get...
6. "Operation successful!".

Good point. Mine came back from the dealer the other week with passenger airbag off and had to do exactly that prcedure.

anand · Sep 9, 2024

Richalo said:
Hi Everyone, I have a 2022 Grenadier here Diesel airbag light is on, I have tried Autel, Launch and Snapon, none will communicate with anything but the engine control module, which diagnostic tool can I use that will see and scan all modules on the Grenadier?

Also, I'm assuming your vehicle is a 2023, as there were no 2022s... but which country did your vehicle originate from?

Logsplitter · Sep 10, 2024

I’m still really interested in where @Richalo imported his vehicle from and why you would bring such a vehicle in with no dealer backup ?
I just looked up Turks and Caicos and it seems they drive on the left as in the U.K. but most vehicles are imported from the USA and left hand drive.

Richalo · Sep 10, 2024

Logsplitter said:
There isn’t one yet apparently and you’ve got quite a journey to your nearest dealership I can see

Yes, Sir, we are a bit away from everything here

Richalo · Sep 10, 2024

anand said:
Also, I'm assuming your vehicle is a 2023, as there were no 2022s... but which country did your vehicle originate from?

Hi Yes, it was built in 2022, (pre ordered right in the beginning) Ordered and collected in UK
We were a land Rover Dealer here until Land Rover made the strategic decision to withdraw from the "smaller" markets we still have many requests for NEW Land Rover vehicles, but can not order them.

Richalo · Sep 10, 2024

Logsplitter said:
I’m still really interested in where @Richalo imported his vehicle from and why you would bring such a vehicle in with no dealer backup ?
I just looked up Turks and Caicos and it seems they drive on the left as in the U.K. but most vehicles are imported from the USA and left hand drive.

The dealer in UK, still does not have a Diagnostic tool either, we are totaly willing to buy the Factory Diagnostic tool, as I believe this will not be the only Grenadier on island for too long, also you would be amazed which new vehicles are on island without any dealers, as a former Land Rover Dealer we subscribe to TOPIX and JLR EPC have the official Pathfinder and VCM for the rest we all make do with Autel, Launch, Snap-on diagnostics etc. Its a different Life out here

Richalo · Sep 10, 2024

Tazzieman said:
Have you tried toggling the menu on case it's a software glitch?
From a previous thread:

"toggle the "Passenger Air Bag" function On or Off, do the following:
1. Make sure the Engine is On.
2. Pull the Handbrake on.
3. Go to Settings>Vehicle Functions>Passenger Air Bag Off>.
4. Tuggle the switch to the right (On) or to the left (Off) on the "Passenger Air Bag Off". Then...
5. A pop-up message will appear: "Please press the brake pedal for 3 seconds". Do that, then you'll get...
6. "Operation successful!".

I will Give that a try to see, will post if it did the trick

Richalo · Sep 11, 2024

Logsplitter said:
There isn’t one yet apparently and you’ve got quite a journey to your nearest dealership I can see

I Just Spoke to the Owner, he is in UK right now, he said he found out that the dealers are using a BOSCH Diagnostic tool, he is going to try to find out which model and if it is specifically loaded with Ineos Grenadier software

Richalo · Sep 11, 2024

Tazzieman said:
Have you tried toggling the menu on case it's a software glitch?
From a previous thread:

"toggle the "Passenger Air Bag" function On or Off, do the following:
1. Make sure the Engine is On.
2. Pull the Handbrake on.
3. Go to Settings>Vehicle Functions>Passenger Air Bag Off>.
4. Tuggle the switch to the right (On) or to the left (Off) on the "Passenger Air Bag Off". Then...
5. A pop-up message will appear: "Please press the brake pedal for 3 seconds". Do that, then you'll get...
6. "Operation successful!".

I gave it a go as you laid out above, the process completed and said Operation Successful, did it a few times as the fault remained, but to no avail see fault photo attached and also warning light in cluster in front of steering

Jean Mercier · Sep 11, 2024

It is quite frustrating, especially for people far away from everything (this isn't my case of course) that Ineos doesn't keep its promises that we should have been able to service our cars ourselves, and have access to documentation, dealers nearby, etc.

I really thought that they (Ineos Automotive) would from the beginning provide us with an extraordinary "new" customer oriented approach, something never done by any other car manufacturer.

The contrary has been true, as far as I know:

no Bosch Service Centers
no access to the technical documentation
no possibility to reset fault codes ourselves

And ... they are watching this forum, and never show up, or the very few that showed up, did disappear as fast as they appeared.

Even at my "not 4x4 dedicated dealer", several people watch sometimes this forum. This was confirmed last Monday to me, by a new employee whom I saw only one time some months ago. "Ooh yes, you are the guy who posts sometimes on the forum"

So, Ineos lurkers: please, change your customer approach!

Tazzieman · Sep 11, 2024

Richalo said:
I gave it a go as you laid out above, the process completed and said Operation Successful, did it a few times as the fault remained, but to no avail see fault photo attached and also warning light in cluster in front of steering

Perhaps there's just a loose connection somewhere. But if so, without further knowledge it would seem the dealer is the only solution.

Skydance · Sep 11, 2024

Richalo said:
I gave it a go as you laid out above, the process completed and said Operation Successful, did it a few times as the fault remained, but to no avail see fault photo attached and also warning light in cluster in front of steering

If it was mine. I would disconnect the battery by removing negative lead for at least 10 minutes. But first of all, make sure the dashboard is totally a sleep by opening and propping open the bonnet and wait until all lights go off. When you reconnect, for the first few minutes all sorts of warning lights come on but don’t worry it’s cycling through them all and will extinguish.

anand · Sep 12, 2024

Richalo said:
I Just Spoke to the Owner, he is in UK right now, he said he found out that the dealers are using a BOSCH Diagnostic tool, he is going to try to find out which model and if it is specifically loaded with Ineos Grenadier software

It uses Bosch Grade-X with an Ineos twist, however, requires a specific log in/password

255/85 · Sep 12, 2024

Tazzieman said:
Perhaps there's just a loose connection somewhere. But if so, without further knowledge it would seem the dealer is the only solution.

I wouldn't poke around the airbag itself but @Tazzieman may have the right idea. Consider carefully looking at the connections under the seat.

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