ELECTRICAL CAR NOT STARTING (tracked to a 7.5 fuse F137 run crank)

Today I am having the Wolf Box Mirror installed and figured we would install the RedArc Tow pro at the same time. As of right now everything is connected, but we are getting PDC , Airbag, abd a host of other problems. Please see below picture. As of right now, I can turn the key but car will not start at all.
Any suggestions?

NomadJS said:

Today I am having the Wolf Box Mirror installed and figured we would install the RedArc Tow pro at the same time. As of right now everything is connected, but we are getting PDC , Airbag, abd a host of other problems. Please see below picture. As of right now, I can turn the key but car will not start at all.
Any suggestions?

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Remove all the aftermarket crud and revert her to stock!

NomadJS said:

Today I am having the Wolf Box Mirror installed and figured we would install the RedArc Tow pro at the same time. As of right now everything is connected, but we are getting PDC , Airbag, abd a host of other problems. Please see below picture. As of right now, I can turn the key but car will not start at all.
Any suggestions?

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Did you disconnect the battery/ies before doing the electrical work?
There is a known procedure to follow prior to battery disconnection. I don't know if this is in the NA owners manual or affixed to the vehicle. Not saying this is the issue with your vehicle but it's a consideration. I have no further info on what 'system functionality will be impaired' means in respect to being able to start the vehicle.

It's common to get a few amber lights after the battery has been disconnected and they will typically clear within the first few minutes of driving. No known issues with starting though.

Does the engine crank on the starter or do you just get lights and nothing else?

Clark Kent said:

Did you disconnect the battery/ies before doing the electrical work?
There is a known procedure to follow prior to battery disconnection. I don't know if this is in the NA owners manual or affixed to the vehicle. Not saying this is the issue with your vehicle but it's a consideration. I have no further info on what 'system functionality will be impaired' means in respect to being able to start the vehicle.

It's common to get a few amber lights after the battery has been disconnected and they will typically clear within the first few minutes of driving. No known issues with starting though.

Does the engine crank on the starter or do you just get lights and nothing else?

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Engine doesn't crank, only lights

The shop here said that they disconnected battery before working, but I was not in there to witness. I gave them the instructions on how to disconnect?

NomadJS said:

Engine doesn't crank, only lights

The shop here said that they disconnected battery before working, but I was not in there to witness. I gave them the instructions on how to disconnect?

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Could it be the security system, the immobilizer keeping engine from cranking over.

NomadJS said:

Engine doesn't crank, only lights

The shop here said that they disconnected battery before working, but I was not in there to witness. I gave them the instructions on how to disconnect?

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There's no single go-to solution here. It drove in to the workshop so the techs need to find where they may have created a fault.
Presumably they're back-tracking over their work to see if they have dislodged something like a fuel pump fuse or relay or blown a fuse. Immobiliser is a good suggestion by @ADVAW8S but apart from checking the fuse/s or testing with your 2nd key I'm not sure how you can prove that.

Did they use fuse taps at the cockpit fuse box for the Wolfbox installation? Remove them and refit the original fuses then test again.

If you're looking for something else to try; put the vehicle to sleep for 15 mins then try to start it.
There seems to be a gremlin in B57 diesel vehicles that has caused a few vehicles to crank but not start (different to your issue). Owners have locked their vehicle and come back 15 mins later (after the vehicle has been asleep) and it's all good again.
I don't think the 15 mins is hard coded but it ensures the vehicle went to sleep.

It was finally tracked to a 7.5 fuse F137 run crank. Just good to know. Thank you everyone for your help.

Still have an air bag warning light but everything else seems to be good.

Good to hear that you found the problem @NomadJS . I've lost count of the times I've had an electrical problem which ended up as being a simple fuse.

Unfortunately the airbag warning light will require a trip back to the dealer to reset. The following is from an E-mail sent to me by Ineos Australia earlier in the year when I enquired about disconnection procedures. Note this was before they started fitting the disconnection warning sticker to vehicles so the 15 min wait may not be necessary.

• Allow the vehicle to enter ‘Sleep’ mode (vehicle switched off and systems inactive for at least 15 minutes). Failure to do this will result in:
  • Airbag system warnings being displayed and fault codes recorded in the airbag control module.
  • The passenger airbag will be automatically deactivated – no manual reactivation is possible.
  • Restoring the functions will require a visit to an Ineos service provider.

From various forum posts its also recommended to leave a door or the bonnet open as well while the vehicle is going into sleep mode as opening a door will reawaken the vehicle.
Finally the American owners manual has a disconnection procedure in the maintenance section.

Cheers

Steve

Rok_Dr said:

Good to hear that you found the problem @NomadJS . I've lost count of the times I've had an electrical problem which ended up as being a simple fuse.

Unfortunately the airbag warning light will require a trip back to the dealer to reset. The following is from an E-mail sent to me by Ineos Australia earlier in the year when I enquired about disconnection procedures. Note this was before they started fitting the disconnection warning sticker to vehicles so the 15 min wait may not be necessary.

• Allow the vehicle to enter ‘Sleep’ mode (vehicle switched off and systems inactive for at least 15 minutes). Failure to do this will result in:
  • Airbag system warnings being displayed and fault codes recorded in the airbag control module.
  • The passenger airbag will be automatically deactivated – no manual reactivation is possible.
  • Restoring the functions will require a visit to an Ineos service provider.

From various forum posts its also recommended to leave a door or the bonnet open as well while the vehicle is going into sleep mode as opening a door will reawaken the vehicle.
Finally the American owners manual has a disconnection procedure in the maintenance section.

Cheers

Steve

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Thank you for this! Your manual was very handy in tracking that down. I was afraid of having to go back to the dealer. - thanks for sharing that.