Diesel Diesel Oil Specification Thread (B57 Engines)

DenisM · Mar 25, 2024

Tinki said:
Third oil change is in the books , odo reads 8760 . from decision time to packing the tools away took approximately 45 minutes . (took longer to clean up than to do the oil change)

Once done and after adding my usual 7.1l of oil in the engine when checking the oil level electronically it came up with refill 1l for both on road and off road ( oil at temp ) . low oil light came on only after the measurement and not while the car was warming up .

I thought it was weird for me to make a mistake of that magnitude, 1 L seemed excessive . So i added an extra 500ml of oil just as a test . Re measured and came to ok for on road and refill 500ml for off road .
It seems the resolution of measurement is not the best . But anyway warning light goes off as soon as you start the measurement and never came back .

Anyway not sure what happened there , so will wait for next time to investigate further .

Next service will be the major at the dealer at 12000k .

Thank you guys

Thanks for the update... which oil did you use?

Znarfgh · Mar 25, 2024

DenisM said:
The Ryco filter R2829P is an exact match for BMW 1142 7 826 799. Confirmed it with Ryco earlier today. They, like all filter sellers source filters from manufacturers around the world... including Bulgaria... ( umbrellas are an optional extra)
Local prices seem to vary enormously.... Perhaps because it is BMW -related?

I have purchased the IG genuine Filter and the Ryco copy and must say the copy is not the exact same as the Ineos offer. I don't think I will be using the cheaper Ryco alternative.

I'm no expert but these differences from the original filter would concern me.

TheDocAUS · Mar 25, 2024

It seems a lot of the filters vary slightly I looked at 5 different filter brands over here. Different weights, different number of pleats, plastic thickness varies etc. The BMW OEM filter, used by INEOS, does not have a great reputation either.

Znarfgh · Mar 25, 2024

TheDocAUS said:
It seems a lot of the filters vary slightly I looked at 5 different filter brands over here. Different weights, different number of pleats, plastic thickness varies etc. The BMW OEM filter, used by INEOS, does not have a great reputation either.

Maybe not, but Ineos has no out when it comes to a warranty claim attributable to the oil filter.

TheDocAUS · Mar 25, 2024

Znarfgh said:
Maybe not, but Ineos has no out when it comes to a warranty claim attributable to the oil filter.

They do not have an out with a third party oil filter either - at least when you use a reputable brand like RYCO.

There are protections in legislation in Australia for consumers, it is one reason why third party suppliers say their product meets or exceeds the manufacturer's specifications. The legislation also protects the owner's warranty when using a licensed mechanic, and not the dealer, to do scheduled servicing of new cars.

Moreover, Australians since mid 2022 have the benefit of the revised Motor vehicle information scheme (or MVIS), which can help third party providers service and repair our cars.

NQ94 · Mar 25, 2024

Znarfgh said:
I have purchased the IG genuine Filter and the Ryco copy and must say the copy is not the exact same as the Ineos offer. I don't think I will be using the cheaper Ryco alternative.

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I'm no expert but these differences from the original filter would concern me.

The internal diameter be of more importance as that is the one that seals on the spigot. The .010" outer diameter difference wouldn't be an issue. There is even variances in genuine cartridge filters, it depends on who is making the filter at the time and what factory location the filter comes from. The extra pleats in the Genuine one would make it a better filter and better for using to the full 15k service interval. The good thing about Ryco is that you will not void your warranty in Australia and if the filter is proven to cause the engine failure they will cover it.

CountyV8 · Mar 25, 2024

Isn't the BMW filter made by Mahle

Tinki · Mar 25, 2024

DenisM said:
Thanks for the update... which oil did you use?

dealer suggested valvoline ll12 synthetic 0w30 . and original bmw filter .

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Shippa · May 2, 2024

When i picked up my from Perth, in mid March, I tried to buy oil and filter for a first oil change. I was lead to believe by the salesman that both were available! The service/parts department sold me an oil Filter at $49.50 but could not supply me with oil. After talking at length with service person they said to just use a 5W-30 oil and it should be OK. I was surprised by the attitude about meeting the BMW LL 12FE requirement.

LeftCoastOverland · May 2, 2024

“Should be ok…”

DenisM · May 2, 2024

Shippa said:
When i picked up my from Perth, in mid March, I tried to buy oil and filter for a first oil change. I was lead to believe by the salesman that both were available! The service/parts department sold me an oil Filter at $49.50 but could not supply me with oil. After talking at length with service person they said to just use a 5W-30 oil and it should be OK. I was surprised by the attitude about meeting the BMW LL 12FE requirement.

I bought a 10L drum of Penrite C2 0w30 from Repco for around A$127 on special (with RACQ discount). Meets BMW LL-12FE and claimed to be suitable for also for where 0w-20 and 5w-30 grades are specified.

The local Ineos agent sold me a filter for A$41 Inc GST. The workshop was chock full of pre-delivery and vehicles in for service. He was most relaxed when I told him why I wanted the filter...just said make sure the oil is LL-12 FE! Went on to say the vehicles coming in for first service are all at 15k km long before their "12month" interval!

I'll go back in a couple of months for a full service after my forthcoming (June) multi week Cairns trip .. currently at 7000 km...

crimson · Jul 5, 2024

We're planning a 4 hour drive inland tomorrow, leaving at 4am. I've just done an oil check and it's saying low, fill 1L [Diesel].

Unfortunately I won't get the chance to wait for the usual stores to open, i.e to get Penrite C2 0w30. Any advice or tips whether I can top up with an interim oil from a service station?

Thanks

ECrider · Jul 5, 2024

crimson said:
We're planning a 4 hour drive inland tomorrow, leaving at 4am. I've just done an oil check and it's saying low, fill 1L [Diesel].

Unfortunately I won't get the chance to wait for the usual stores to open, i.e to get Penrite C2 0w30. Any advice or tips whether I can top up with an interim oil from a service station?

Thanks

that's 1 litre for on-road and off-road or??

crimson · Jul 5, 2024

ECrider said:
that's 1 litre for on-road and off-road or??

Yes 1L for each.

Logsplitter · Jul 5, 2024

I wonder why it’s low for the on road level.

crimson · Jul 5, 2024

Logsplitter said:
I wonder why it’s low for the on road level.

I checked again and only on-road is now showing.

Also noticed it only allows you to run the oil check twice, with the start measurement button now greyed out. Unless it's detecting change of environment.

ECrider · Jul 5, 2024

crimson said:
I checked again and only on-road is now showing.

Also noticed it only allows you to run the oil check twice, with the start measurement button now greyed out. Unless it's detecting change of environment.

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I think the temp at 51c is prob too cool for re-run. I would stick in 500ml of the closest spec oil you can get enroute and see how it is after that, then throw in more if needs be. Working on the assumption that an oil mix is better than too little of the right oil spec. Someone might come along and say it's worse!

crimson · Jul 5, 2024

Thanks @ECrider appropriate your help

. I'm off to bed for an early start and to the first open servo

LeftCoastOverland · Jul 21, 2024

Well… I reached my 5500Km and wanted to get the break in oil out.

I’ve decided to go with the Penrite C2 0w30 like so many others here have, and I got a sweet deal. 7L at supercheap on sale till end of day today $89 down from $130 SCORE!

I had an OEM filter I purchased when I initially picked up my truck from the agent, so decided to take the plunge.

Couple of learning lessons:
1) use a bucket rather than an oil pan. I got one of those 10L plastic tubs that have removable plugs and drain ports. Have used these successfully in the past, however the oil splashed off the surface in 2 directions 90 degrees to the stream out of the sump. Made a huge mess on the garage floor.
a shorty 10L bucket would have been a better option.

2) I can’t seem to get my vehicle to run an oil level check.
-I’m on a level surface ( 1 degree on infoscreen)
-operating temp 90 degrees coolant, 58 degrees oil.
-in park / neutral.
I can’t get the “Ok Start” button to work… am I off on my parameters? I know I put in 7L of oil in from my Jug, need to find a .1 to add…

3) wish the dipstick was functional.

Otherwise it wasn’t too much of a chore. 1/2 day job at most!

Quartermaster · Jul 21, 2024

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