Motor oil change instructions and parts?

Chelsea Tractor said:

Also, unless I am doing it wrong,
all I get when checking oil level is that it is 'OK'
Have not found any indication of the actual level / how much to add. Assume it will wait until the level is not 'OK' but still need to know how much to add at that pont.

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Chelsea Tractor said:

Also, unless I am doing it wrong,
all I get when checking oil level is that it is 'OK'
Have not found any indication of the actual level / how much to add. Assume it will wait until the level is not 'OK' but still need to know how much to add at that pont.

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ECrider said:

If not ok then it tells you to refill. In my case refill 500ml for off-road. Ive stuck in 700ml and it still shows on road ok and off road fill 500ml.

Give me a simple dipstick that is accessible and reliable. Computers may work 60pct of the time everytime but a dipstick works bloody 100pct!

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Tazzieman said:

It doesn't know if it's Arthur or Martha.
I'm not sure which way to turn.
Will it say overfull if you drop 2L in?

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Chelsea Tractor said:

Also, unless I am doing it wrong,
all I get when checking oil level is that it is 'OK'
Have not found any indication of the actual level / how much to add. Assume it will wait until the level is not 'OK' but still need to know how much to add at that pont.

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[ Adam ] said:

This is in line with what I was told by the Ineos dealer in Idaho, that it wanted 8qts instead of 7.

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[ Adam ] said:

Did my oil change on Wednesday. We added 7qts and did the check procedure, waiting until the vehicle was up to temp. It indicated a qt low, so we added a qt and then checked again, system reported O for bot on and off road..

This is in line with what I was told by the Ineos dealer in Idaho, that it wanted 8qts instead of 7.

We used Liquid Moly 6600
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Eric said:

I'm curious, do they still sell oil in qts in the US, I thought that it would be branded worldwide in litres?

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Tazzieman said:

I saved this from somewhere ; maybe someone here a while ago.
See the comment re condensates and short trips.


"The electrical material properties of the engine oil change as the engine oil wears and ages. The changed electrical properties of the engine oil (dielectrics) cause the capacity of the capacitor to change.

The electronic evaluation unit converts the measured capacity into a digital signal. The digital sensor signal is sent to the engine management system. The engine management system uses the signal for internal calculations"

How the oil condition sensor works. In summary, it measures the conductivity of the oil. as the oil moves from base to acid, and contaminants collect in the oil, the oil becomes more conductive. The oil condition sensors monitors the change, and indicates the oil needs changed when the contaminants and acidity reach a certain threshold.

From the BMW System functions

The following system functions are described for the oil condition sensor:

! Measuring method

! Electronic oil level control

Measuring method

The oil condition sensor consists of 2 cylindrical condensers. The condensers are mounted above one another. 2 metal tubes are inserted one into the other to serve as electrodes. The engine oil is used as a dielectric medium between the electrodes.

Note! Explanation of the terms 'dielectric' and 'permittivity'.

A dielectric is defined as a non-conductive material in an electrical field. The electrical field is split by an insulator.

The permittivity (Latin: permittere = permit, let through) is also referred to as the dielectric conductance. The permittivity specifies the degree to which materials allow electrical fields to pass.

The factor indicates by how much the voltage at a capacitor drops when a dielectric, non-conducting material.

The temperature sensor is seated on the housing of the oil condition sensor. The housing of the oil condition sensor contains an electronic evaluation unit. The electronic evaluation unit has self-diagnosis. A fault in the oil condition sensor is entered in the fault memory of the engine management system.

The oil condition sensor sends its measured values to the engine management system:

! Engine oil temperature

! Oil level

! Engine oil quality

The electrical material properties of the engine oil change as the engine oil wears and ages. The changed electrical properties of the engine oil (dielectrics) cause the capacity of the capacitor to change. The electronic evaluation unit converts the measured capacity into a digital signal. The digital sensor signal is sent to the engine management system. The engine management system uses the signal for internal calculations (e.g. condensate in the engine oil).

Note: condensate in the engine oil.

Condensate that forms in the crankcase due to short distance driving can influence the permittivity. If the water is mixed in the engine oil, it also collects around the oil condition sensor.

If there is too much water in the crankcase:

In individual cases there can be an incorrect display of the oil level or a warning requesting that the oil be topped up.

This "false oil level warning" can be treated by means of a fault profile selection on the BMW diagnosis system, whereby the permittivity of the oil is also evaluated. However, there is no direct display of the permittivity. The permittivity depends on, among other things, the viscosity or age of the oil. This means that an appraisal of the quality is not ensured in every case. "

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Tazzieman said:

I saved this from somewhere ; maybe someone here a while ago.
See the comment re condensates and short trips.


"The electrical material properties of the engine oil change as the engine oil wears and ages. The changed electrical properties of the engine oil (dielectrics) cause the capacity of the capacitor to change.

The electronic evaluation unit converts the measured capacity into a digital signal. The digital sensor signal is sent to the engine management system. The engine management system uses the signal for internal calculations"

How the oil condition sensor works. In summary, it measures the conductivity of the oil. as the oil moves from base to acid, and contaminants collect in the oil, the oil becomes more conductive. The oil condition sensors monitors the change, and indicates the oil needs changed when the contaminants and acidity reach a certain threshold.

From the BMW System functions

The following system functions are described for the oil condition sensor:

! Measuring method

! Electronic oil level control

Measuring method

The oil condition sensor consists of 2 cylindrical condensers. The condensers are mounted above one another. 2 metal tubes are inserted one into the other to serve as electrodes. The engine oil is used as a dielectric medium between the electrodes.

Note! Explanation of the terms 'dielectric' and 'permittivity'.

A dielectric is defined as a non-conductive material in an electrical field. The electrical field is split by an insulator.

The permittivity (Latin: permittere = permit, let through) is also referred to as the dielectric conductance. The permittivity specifies the degree to which materials allow electrical fields to pass.

The factor indicates by how much the voltage at a capacitor drops when a dielectric, non-conducting material.

The temperature sensor is seated on the housing of the oil condition sensor. The housing of the oil condition sensor contains an electronic evaluation unit. The electronic evaluation unit has self-diagnosis. A fault in the oil condition sensor is entered in the fault memory of the engine management system.

The oil condition sensor sends its measured values to the engine management system:

! Engine oil temperature

! Oil level

! Engine oil quality

The electrical material properties of the engine oil change as the engine oil wears and ages. The changed electrical properties of the engine oil (dielectrics) cause the capacity of the capacitor to change. The electronic evaluation unit converts the measured capacity into a digital signal. The digital sensor signal is sent to the engine management system. The engine management system uses the signal for internal calculations (e.g. condensate in the engine oil).

Note: condensate in the engine oil.

Condensate that forms in the crankcase due to short distance driving can influence the permittivity. If the water is mixed in the engine oil, it also collects around the oil condition sensor.

If there is too much water in the crankcase:

In individual cases there can be an incorrect display of the oil level or a warning requesting that the oil be topped up.

This "false oil level warning" can be treated by means of a fault profile selection on the BMW diagnosis system, whereby the permittivity of the oil is also evaluated. However, there is no direct display of the permittivity. The permittivity depends on, among other things, the viscosity or age of the oil. This means that an appraisal of the quality is not ensured in every case. "

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Norb-TX said:

I've been using an oil evacuator for most of my cars, so much easier than draining from the bottom, but if there isn't a dipstick tube, it won't work. Silly.

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Tazzieman said:

I saved this from somewhere ; maybe someone here a while ago.
See the comment re condensates and short trips.


"The electrical material properties of the engine oil change as the engine oil wears and ages. The changed electrical properties of the engine oil (dielectrics) cause the capacity of the capacitor to change.

The electronic evaluation unit converts the measured capacity into a digital signal. The digital sensor signal is sent to the engine management system. The engine management system uses the signal for internal calculations"

How the oil condition sensor works. In summary, it measures the conductivity of the oil. as the oil moves from base to acid, and contaminants collect in the oil, the oil becomes more conductive. The oil condition sensors monitors the change, and indicates the oil needs changed when the contaminants and acidity reach a certain threshold.

From the BMW System functions

The following system functions are described for the oil condition sensor:

! Measuring method

! Electronic oil level control

Measuring method

The oil condition sensor consists of 2 cylindrical condensers. The condensers are mounted above one another. 2 metal tubes are inserted one into the other to serve as electrodes. The engine oil is used as a dielectric medium between the electrodes.

Note! Explanation of the terms 'dielectric' and 'permittivity'.

A dielectric is defined as a non-conductive material in an electrical field. The electrical field is split by an insulator.

The permittivity (Latin: permittere = permit, let through) is also referred to as the dielectric conductance. The permittivity specifies the degree to which materials allow electrical fields to pass.

The factor indicates by how much the voltage at a capacitor drops when a dielectric, non-conducting material.

The temperature sensor is seated on the housing of the oil condition sensor. The housing of the oil condition sensor contains an electronic evaluation unit. The electronic evaluation unit has self-diagnosis. A fault in the oil condition sensor is entered in the fault memory of the engine management system.

The oil condition sensor sends its measured values to the engine management system:

! Engine oil temperature

! Oil level

! Engine oil quality

The electrical material properties of the engine oil change as the engine oil wears and ages. The changed electrical properties of the engine oil (dielectrics) cause the capacity of the capacitor to change. The electronic evaluation unit converts the measured capacity into a digital signal. The digital sensor signal is sent to the engine management system. The engine management system uses the signal for internal calculations (e.g. condensate in the engine oil).

Note: condensate in the engine oil.

Condensate that forms in the crankcase due to short distance driving can influence the permittivity. If the water is mixed in the engine oil, it also collects around the oil condition sensor.

If there is too much water in the crankcase:

In individual cases there can be an incorrect display of the oil level or a warning requesting that the oil be topped up.

This "false oil level warning" can be treated by means of a fault profile selection on the BMW diagnosis system, whereby the permittivity of the oil is also evaluated. However, there is no direct display of the permittivity. The permittivity depends on, among other things, the viscosity or age of the oil. This means that an appraisal of the quality is not ensured in every case. "

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DaBull said:

Can't we just have a damm dip stick for the Petrol engine.
Someone needs to create a template so we will know exactly where to drill a hole in the engine.
I will the be the first to purchase it.
DaBull

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Tom109 said:

I'm going to do my first filter, drain & fill this weekend. Have 9 quarts of oil on hand.

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Krabby said:

WTF is wrong with just using a dipstick?

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