Logsplitter’s travels in his Grenadier.

stickshifter · Feb 4, 2024

As is your standard - great photos and a great narrative!

The manual transfer shifter and the transfer case overall is one of the most important things in the truck. Failure with this component is problematic. I think many of us who have a long history driving 4x4 utility vehicles were really pleased to see Ineos go with a manual shifter. It is a bit concerning to see your troubles with the t-case cables. Of course, it must be frustrating for you as well to be addressing this for a second time on the same trip. Good to see Ineos being responsive, and good luck getting this sorted out. As always - safe travels!

[ Adam ] · Feb 4, 2024

This strikes me as insufficient given the loads and usage

Logsplitter · Feb 4, 2024

[ Adam ] said:
This strikes me as insufficient given the loads and usage

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Ineos know this now and are surely addressing. I will get a fix in Windhoek and will be under the vehicle to check myself.. The cables need to be completely enclosed in a clamp so they can’t fall out. I’m confident I will get fixed. But why didn’t this issue come up in prototype testing. I am over 18k km in and loaded for the whole journey. I’m wondering of all the vehicles that did the 1.8m km of testing how many did that distance loaded and probably 30% dirt roads

. Not many I guess.
I’m doing the testing for them at my expense.

. Can’t complain as they have supported me through the issues. It just seems to me as a layman that the issues I’ve had are so basic that they should not have happened.
I could go under this vehicle with an Ineos engineer and identify issues that should not be there in a vehicle built for purpose. Cable fixings, auxiliary radiator fixings and coolant pipe fixings top the list.

Dont get me wrong it’s a great vehicle and I love it All the major components are spot on but fixings for cables pipes and ancillary equipment needs addressing in my view.
Many more thousands of km to go on far rougher roads once I get fixed up in Windhoek.Then i head north into unknown territory for me

TheDocAUS · Feb 4, 2024

Logsplitter said:
I’m doing the testing for them at my expense. . Can’t complain as they have supported me through the issues. It just seems to me as a layman that the issues I’ve had are so basic that they should not have happened.

You are also testing for the rest of us, thank you.

anand · Feb 4, 2024

Logsplitter said:
Ineos know this now and are surely addressing. I will get a fix in Windhoek and will be under the vehicle to check myself.. The cables need to be completely enclosed in a clamp so they can’t fall out. I’m confident I will get fixed. But why didn’t this issue come up in prototype testing.

I'm moderately confident that later MY23s should have had this fix already implemented; we did something very similar to your fix on the US PTO2 vehicles early on in the tour last year

[ Adam ] · Feb 4, 2024

08/23 - VIN: 006478

Braydo · Feb 4, 2024

[ Adam ] said:
08/23 - VIN: 006478
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Looks like there should be another part that fits over the top and bolts through that hole, clamping the whole section closed?

DrahthHunter · Feb 4, 2024

Braedough said:
Looks like there should be another part that fits over the top and bolts through that hole, clamping the whole section closed?

Need something like 1/2 of this
Linky Billet Line clamp

stickshifter · Feb 4, 2024

Braedough said:
Looks like there should be another part that fits over the top and bolts through that hole, clamping the whole section closed?

This is something that someone with the right skills could easily fabricate. But that someone is not me

DrahthHunter · Feb 5, 2024

stickshifter said:
This is something that someone with the right skills could easily fabricate. But that someone is not me

of course you can A piece of billet drill press and a hacksaw.

DenisM · Feb 5, 2024

[ Adam ] said:
08/23 - VIN: 006478
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Two x 15mm half pipe saddle clamps from a "big box" hardware store will probably suffice. Just screw them in place using the existing fastener

Tom109 · Feb 5, 2024

@Logsplitter - very glad you caught this!

I’ll check my cables tomorrow. If it is the same, I will re-use the same mounting bolts with a new bracket designed to support and clamp the cable housing.

bakepl · Feb 5, 2024

Logsplitter said:
Ineos know this now and are surely addressing. I will get a fix in Windhoek and will be under the vehicle to check myself.. The cables need to be completely enclosed in a clamp so they can’t fall out. I’m confident I will get fixed. But why didn’t this issue come up in prototype testing. I am over 18k km in and loaded for the whole journey. I’m wondering of all the vehicles that did the 1.8m km of testing how many did that distance loaded and probably 30% dirt roads . Not many I guess.
I’m doing the testing for them at my expense. . Can’t complain as they have supported me through the issues. It just seems to me as a layman that the issues I’ve had are so basic that they should not have happened.
I could go under this vehicle with an Ineos engineer and identify issues that should not be there in a vehicle built for purpose. Cable fixings, auxiliary radiator fixings and coolant pipe fixings top the list.
Dont get me wrong it’s a great vehicle and I love it All the major components are spot on but fixings for cables pipes and ancillary equipment needs addressing in my view.
Many more thousands of km to go on far rougher roads once I get fixed up in Windhoek.Then i head north into unknown territory for me

Suggest everyone checks theirs and inspect for any damage to cables. Sure enough mine had dropped down and looks like minor damage to the cable silver foil. Caught just in time I'd say... thanks once again Logsplitter...

[ Adam ] · Feb 5, 2024

@Logsplitter - do you have a list of what you inspect on a daily or weekly, etc. basis?

Jean Mercier · Feb 5, 2024

[ Adam ] said:
@Logsplitter - do you have a list of what you inspect on a daily or weekly, etc. basis?

Probably in his head?

Tazzieman · Feb 5, 2024

Jean Mercier said:
Probably in his head?

Yes , t depends upon the type of journey , terrain and willingness to get into an awkward position.
But in remote places , a necessary part of adevnture travel.

Logsplitter · Feb 5, 2024

Jean Mercier said:
Probably in his head?

Are you suggesting that I cannot write.

To · Feb 5, 2024

bakepl said:
Suggest everyone checks theirs and inspect for any damage to cables. Sure enough mine had dropped down and looks like minor damage to the cable silver foil. Caught just in time I'd say... thanks once again Logsplitter...

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Checked my mounting (built in 2022!). The cables are absolutely secure in the bracket. The cables can only be pulled out of the bracket with a great deal of force. I can hardly imagine how these cables can come loose while riding.

Eric · Feb 5, 2024

Logsplitter said:
Are you suggesting that I cannot write.

No but that you will forget/lost where you put the paper with the list on.

Tazzieman · Feb 5, 2024

To said:
Checked my mounting (built in 2022!). The cables are absolutely secure in the bracket. The cables can only be pulled out of the bracket with a great deal of force. I can hardly imagine how these cables can come loose while riding.

Same here. No cause for concern as far as my vehicle is concerned.

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