Undocumented Features / Idiosyncrasies

painter · Apr 27, 2023

ADVAW8S said:
@Ingemar answered that question on this forum. I assume he was on the other forum or someone on this forum posted it on the other forum. The answer is yes, the car will go into park if you open the door. Ingemar indicated that on should put the car in neutral and turn off but right away turn the car back on. The car will allow you to stay in neutral and open the car door. I would guess that their is an easier way similar to backing up with your door open. You put car in neutral and open door. The car goes into reverse, shut door and put car in reverse and open door again. That will leave the car in reverse. This is the way for BMW and Land Rovers to drive with door open.

Thank you I just came back here from reading that other thread for the first time.

Didn't see the bit about opening a door.

Winch

It will be interesting to see how Ineos have set up the second battery with the winch. Wondering if it draws from the primary start battery or both when winching. IG has a Ctek Smart Pass which works as a VSR for the Aux battery.

www.theineosforum.com

EDIT watched the vid. See him outside car, car door open, engine running. Operates winch.

Trans in N ?
Park Brake on ?

IDK

damoryan · Apr 27, 2023

Jeremy996 said:
Having had my Grenadier for a couple of days now, a few quirks have stuck their heads above the parapet.

In normal drive mode, (not offroad), if you try to drive off without a seatbelt on, the vehicle sulks and does not pull away.

The central locking will not lock remotely if the bonnet, (hood), is not properly closed. (Easily corrected by shutting the bonnet correctly. Quirk identified by Chandlers of Belton).

There are two cooling systems and two filler caps; no one can tell me why, (diesel).

I'm sure there will be more.

I was advised by Ineos during a drive in OZ that the 2nd cooling system is for the tranfer-case

Shopkeep · Apr 27, 2023

damoryan said:
I was advised by Ineos during a drive in OZ that the 2nd cooling system is for the tranfer-case

Did the older Range & Land Rovers have separate cooling systems for the transfer case? Was over heating of the transfer case a big issue? Maybe this secondary cooling system serves other parts as well as the transfer case?

DCPU · Apr 27, 2023

damoryan said:
I was advised by Ineos during a drive in OZ that the 2nd cooling system is for the tranfer-case

I thought that was one of the oil to air radiators located behind the wing tips of the front bumper.

The 2nd cooling system is water/coolant rather than oil.

I don't know for certain but believe that the answer to the separate high temperature/low temperature circuits may refer to the warm up function vs normal engine oil cooling, as described here:

The low temperature radiator [item 2] also serves a transmission fluid to coolant heat exchanger(automatic transmission only) [item 7 above].

Assuming of course Ineos have adopted the standard BMW systems.

bemax · Apr 27, 2023

painter said:
So I have a question...

On another forum it was mentioned that when the car transmission is in Neutral with motor running, and the drivers door is then opened, the transmission automatically shifts into Park.

Can an final production unit owner confirm this ?

And also if the same happens when in Off Road Mode - or does that mode defeat the everyday safety, similar to the seat belt situation.

Additionally, can the car be started in Neutral without being in the car (by reaching through an open window) and will it stay in Neutral without the parking brake on.

Asking for a friend, was regarding winching scenarios.

Thank you !

It has been confirmed by my dealer yesterday. Door open = automatic in P.

klarie · Apr 27, 2023

bemax said:
It has been confirmed by my dealer yesterday. Door open = automatic in P.

Its interesting.. what is if door is opened while the vehicle is in motion? May result in interesting effects. there might be situations where its better to get off the vehicle no matter if it stands or in motion.

DCPU · Apr 27, 2023

Who wants to be the first to test that out.?

Steve.B · Apr 27, 2023

A bit of gaffer tape to hold the door switch in.

emax · Apr 28, 2023

If there is any brain left in the designers of such concepts, they will have implemented a maximum speed at which this can happen.

Otherwise, the bolt that (at least on my yr. 2000 ZF) locks the car in park position will simply bend or break and severely damage the ZF box. Aside from the question of how the car will then behave if the wheels fully lock immediately.

AnD3rew · Apr 28, 2023

emax said:
If there is any brain left in the designers of such concepts, they will have implemented a maximum speed at which this can happen.

Otherwise, the bolt that (at least on my yr. 2000 ZF) locks the car in park position will simply bend or break and severely damage the ZF box. Aside from the question of how the car will then behave if the wheels fully lock immediately.

I am assuming that that will only happen if stationary, for the reasons you suggest it would be disastrous if it did that whilst in motion

klarie · Apr 28, 2023

AnD3rew said:
I am assuming that that will only happen if stationary, for the reasons you suggest it would be disastrous if it did that whilst in motion

I would like to have that confirmed by Ineos / ZF.. Like to know first.

Tom D · Apr 28, 2023

I’m sure they have thought of this.

klarie · Apr 28, 2023

Tom D said:
I’m sure they have thought of this.

Perhaps - but I d'like to know how exactly the vehicle will react when a door is opened while in motion - and at what speed - anything that is between just rotating wheels to above pedestrian walking speed.

DCPU · Apr 28, 2023

Tom D said:
I’m sure they have thought of this.

ZF engineer is asked the question:

MrMike · Apr 28, 2023

bemax said:
It has been confirmed by my dealer yesterday. Door open = automatic in P.

@klarie If it is like my Merc, you can open the door at some speed without the vehicle going into park, it just gives a warning on the instrument cluster.

Ever Pragmatic · Apr 28, 2023

The rubber floor mats have a feature in the rear whereby the left footwell one has a flap that extends over the transmission tunnel. they’ve designed a lipped bit at the end that allows it to interlock with the separate right hand footwell one..

bigleonski · Apr 28, 2023

Pretty interested to hear from the guys who have received their vehicles how the cover on the rear main door looks on production models. The below was a pic I took today of a PTO2. I reckon every one of the 6 or 7 prototypes I’ve seen has had the plastic on this door/cover pretty much stuffed, all bent out of shape etc.

Ever Pragmatic · Apr 28, 2023

bigleonski said:
Pretty interested to hear from the guys who have received their vehicles how the cover on the rear main door looks on production models. The below was a pic I took today of a PTO2. I reckon every one of the 6 or 7 prototypes I’ve seen has had the plastic on this door/cover pretty much stuffed, all bent out of shape etc.

View attachment 7809683 View attachment 7809683

Ever Pragmatic · Apr 28, 2023

mine is still awaiting the table but this is what my first aid and warning triangle cover looks like.

bigleonski · Apr 28, 2023

Ever Pragmatic said:
mine is still awaiting the table but this is what my first aid and warning triangle cover looks like.

So that looks pretty warped and buggered brand new?? Hmmm.

Search

Search

Undocumented Features / Idiosyncrasies

painter

Winch

damoryan

Shopkeep

DCPU

bemax

klarie

DCPU

Steve.B

emax

Photo Contest Winner

AnD3rew

Inch deep and a mile wide.

klarie

Tom D

klarie

DCPU

MrMike

Ever Pragmatic

bigleonski

Ever Pragmatic

Ever Pragmatic

Attachments

bigleonski

Similar threads

Latest posts

Share this page