Removable draw system

YIPPE · Feb 17, 2023

DaveB said:
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Yeah thanks Dave. But I meant at the actual folded position. As in those wanting to do a complete flat platform using the seats as part of it. If you were to sleep in it you would continue a level section from Seats to the doors. That's the measurement I'm after. If that makes sense.

DenisM · Feb 17, 2023

YIPPE said:
Yeah thanks Dave. But I meant at the actual folded position. As in those wanting to do a complete flat platform using the seats as part of it. If you were to sleep in it you would continue a level section from Seats to the doors. That's the measurement I'm after. If that makes sense.

Download the pdf Pocket guide https://www.theineosforum.com/resources/grenadier-pocket-guide.11/
The last page has load stats: max distance behind front seats varies between 1645mm (luggage length) and 1795mm (floor length)...
Presuming this is with front seats in rear-most position. Fully forward may add an extra 100mm ...I haven't been able to confirm.

Pat-Ard · Feb 17, 2023

That‘s a nice solution, too…. https://ququq.info/

YIPPE · Feb 17, 2023

DenisM said:
Download the pdf Pocket guide https://www.theineosforum.com/resources/grenadier-pocket-guide.11/
The last page has load stats: max distance behind front seats varies between 1645mm (luggage length) and 1795mm (floor length)...
Presuming this is with front seats in rear-most position. Fully forward may add an extra 100mm ...I haven't been able to confirm.

Sorry I should be more specific. From the back seats to the door. But The bottom of the back support (but when it's horizontal not vertical)

MrMike · Feb 17, 2023

Black Label in Perth W.A have some good set ups, a little over the top in some cases for my liking but quality work

jeremy_matrix · Feb 28, 2023

I'm thinking that Front Runner Outfitters (S.Africa) will be one of the first to develop a rear drawer system....but it might be shallow height to match the folded seat height (DUMB DESIGN I.A.!), so that there's a completely flat interior sleeping surface.

I had the FRO drawer system in my gray G500 and it was very useful (granted, I slept in the Autohome Columbus RTT, not inside).
LOTS of different setups here;

https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/us/storage-systems/drawers.html

Krabby · Feb 28, 2023

Totally agree it was a bit short sighted to not be level, but I guess with the electrics it made it difficult. My hope too is for something useful to level things.

jeremy_matrix · Feb 28, 2023

Krabby said:
Totally agree it was a bit short sighted to not be level, but I guess with the electrics it made it difficult. My hope too is for something useful to level things.

SO many other mfr's have designed/engineered around it, and those weren't as "overland" focused as the IG. Heck, my 2006 RRS S/C has completely flat fold seats, 2006!! And while it's a rare HD model with locking rear diff, I don't think Land Rover or the original owner was thinking of overlanding/sleeping inside it much.

Just really sad to see them kind of give up on an important interior detail, and not find another home for battery(ies)/electronics.

grenadierboy · Feb 28, 2023

jeremy_matrix said:
I'm thinking that Front Runner Outfitters (S.Africa) will be one of the first to develop a rear drawer system....but it might be shallow height to match the folded seat height (DUMB DESIGN I.A.!), so that there's a completely flat interior sleeping surface.

I had the FRO drawer system in my gray G500 and it was very useful (granted, I slept in the Autohome Columbus RTT, not inside).
LOTS of different setups here;
https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/us/storage-systems/drawers.html

Frontrunner just advised me that they are in the process of designing a roof rack for the Grenadier but NOT a draw system at this stage as they are waiting to see sales volumes.

DenisM · Feb 28, 2023

jeremy_matrix said:
SO many other mfr's have designed/engineered around it, and those weren't as "overland" focused as the IG. Heck, my 2006 RRS S/C has completely flat fold seats, 2006!! And while it's a rare HD model with locking rear diff, I don't think Land Rover or the original owner was thinking of overlanding/sleeping inside it much.

Just really sad to see them kind of give up on an important interior detail, and not find another home for battery(ies)/electronics.

Well, we're nothing if not flexible!

I'm not sure where else the battery and electrics could be accommodated given that the designers wanted to remove them from the engine compartment. Personally I see great advantages in the batteries away from heat extremes in the engine compartment, being able to access the batteries and other 'electrickery' out of the weather, and better vehicle weight distribution...

Tazzieman · Feb 28, 2023

Well said Denis. I think they are in a well thought out position.
If people need more room for air fryers , huge fridges etc , get a trailer. Or some other branded vehicle. Or wait for the dual cab.

bigleonski · Feb 28, 2023

DenisM said:
Well, we're nothing if not flexible! I'm not sure where else the battery and electrics could be accommodated given that the designers wanted to remove them from the engine compartment. Personally I see great advantages in the batteries away from heat extremes in the engine compartment, being able to access the batteries and other 'electrickery' out of the weather, and better vehicle weight distribution...

The one spot that the extra power outlets don’t cater is just behind the rear seat where I’d normally run power to the fridge. Getting power there will be easy as with the battery where it is.
In 99% of vehicles there is nothing under the second row seats but no space and carpet. I reckon putting the batteries there is a great solution.

Tazzieman · Feb 28, 2023

bigleonski said:
I reckon putting the batteries there is a great solution.

My Landcruisers had about 60kg batteries in front of the front axle.
Not great for handling!

DCPU · Feb 28, 2023

jeremy_matrix said:
I'm thinking that Front Runner Outfitters (S.Africa) will be one of the first to develop a rear drawer system....but it might be shallow height to match the folded seat height

Are you ignoring the ones from Gearmate?

jeremy_matrix said:
(DUMB DESIGN I.A.!), so that there's a completely flat interior sleeping surface.

Might be for your purpose but works very well for me. Stackable boxes have a lip/bulkhead to load up against, and lighter, softer kit is more accessible from rear doors.

It's a simple task to create a plinth if you really want a flat surface, and then you get a lower storage area for heavy, long or just dirty items.

DaveB · Feb 28, 2023

bigleonski said:
The one spot that the extra power outlets don’t cater is just behind the rear seat where I’d normally run power to the fridge. Getting power there will be easy as with the battery where it is.
In 99% of vehicles there is nothing under the second row seats but no space and carpet. I reckon putting the batteries there is a great solution.

DaveB · Feb 28, 2023

DCPU said:
Are you ignoring the ones from Gearmate?

Might be for your purpose but works very well for me. Stackable boxes have a lip/bulkhead to load up against, and lighter, softer kit is more accessible from rear doors.

It's a simple task to create a plinth if you really want a flat surface, and then you get a lower storage area for heavy, long or just dirty items.

I have somewhat less than zero desire to sleep in the back of my vehicle like a homeless person.
Book a hotel room

Tazzieman · Feb 28, 2023

DaveB said:
I have somewhat less than zero desire to sleep in the back of my vehicle like a homeless person.
Book a hotel room

Camping in a tent and eating tinned food over a smoky fire is what we did as kids. It enabled you to leave home and experience underprivileged life.
In that regard it was educative.
Sleeping in cars is not an aspirational option for us either!
I'd rather sleep under the stars in the open , which I've done in the past year, next to a croc filled river.

Logsplitter · Feb 28, 2023

We intend to sleep in ours on the odd occasion that it’s not suitable to set up camp or we need to get away early for example
will work out the arrangement once we have the vehicle. We tend to use stackable plastic crates for kit which is easy to configure.
we both still love camping especially under African skies.

ECrider · Feb 28, 2023

Yep, dogs and I will camp in the car now and again. Will try and level the 60pct side of the back seats and airbed it on hopefully a flat platform/drawer of sometype.

Sod sleeping next to croc infested rivers!!!

bigleonski · Feb 28, 2023

DaveB said:
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What’s your point Dave?
Are you saying there’s a power point in the seat back where your second red circle is? Awesome if so, but not marked.

The one on the side isn’t at the back of the cargo area, so useless for my application.

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