Table in the back door !?

Hannes01 · Jan 31, 2023

I ordered the table in the back door, but no utensil bar on the sides. does anyone know if the accessory table can be set up without the bars

beg · Jan 31, 2023

Its attached to the door

Krabby · Jan 31, 2023

It flips down and is supported by a hinge and side lines.

Something similar to this.

Hannes01 · Jan 31, 2023

Thanks

Spjnr · Jan 31, 2023

Krabby said:
It flips down and is supported by a hinge and side lines.

Something similar to this. View attachment 7802197

Better not say 'defender' above it !

Krabby · Jan 31, 2023

Spjnr said:
Better not say 'defender' above it !

Actually, you want that brand. It’ll allow cooking oils to drain right to the ground.

ECrider · Jan 31, 2023

How do those retaining arms stow, incase anyone knows?

ADVAW8S · Jan 31, 2023

ECrider said:
How do those retaining arms stow, incase anyone knows?

They fold up with the table.

klarie · Jan 31, 2023

Picture taken in Aufenau Event - That is the vehicle (PT02-019) I did the test drive with. - I did order this as well. - Do not know if this is the final version of rear table. Seems quite rugged.

bimmerteck · Jan 31, 2023

I like the table offering, but held off on initial build until I get the vehicle in hand and start planning the load space for our family’s needs.

Krabby · Jan 31, 2023

Better/different aftermarket options will also be available by the time things cross the Atlantic.

trobex · Feb 1, 2023

I added the table - its where ill change the bubs nappies... if still ini nappies before the Gren arrives

Krabby · Feb 1, 2023

trobex said:
I added the table - its where ill change the bubs nappies... if still ini nappies before the Gren arrives

At this pace, you could be the one in nappies by then ...

MrMike · Feb 1, 2023

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marko · Feb 1, 2023

klarie said:
View attachment 7802201
Picture taken in Aufenau Event - That is the vehicle (PT02-019) I did the test drive with. - I did order this as well. - Do not know if this is the final version of rear table. Seems quite rugged.

Yeah I like that. Did try to add to my configuration but told I was after the freeze point. Looks a pretty simple dealer or customer install though, always assuming I can get delivery of the parts!

klarie · Feb 1, 2023

marko said:
Yeah I like that. Did try to add to my configuration but told I was after the freeze point. Looks a pretty simple dealer or customer install though, always assuming I can get delivery of the parts!

Indeed - when you look close at all parts internally - there is nothing "clipped or sealed or special tools required.
All covers seem properly torxed - and very few different type - so a foldable table should be easy attached in an aftermarket process.
That is one main reason why I like the Grenadier. Easy to repair and maintain, attach / enhance.. using "quite normal" tools.

jamesfielding · Feb 1, 2023

klarie said:
Indeed - when you look close at all parts internally - there is nothing "clipped or sealed or special tools required.
All covers seem properly torxed - and very few different type - so a foldable table should be easy attached in an aftermarket process.
That is one main reason why I like the Grenadier. Easy to repair and maintain, attach / enhance.. using "quite normal" tools.

Over the Christmas break went and saw a PT02 in my local dealer - Gloucester, UK - had a joke with my father-in-law,
All grenadier fixings are either a Torx or 19mm bolt so that you would only ever need 2 tools

klarie · Feb 1, 2023

jamesfielding said:
Over the Christmas break went and saw a PT02 in my local dealer - Gloucester, UK - had a joke with my father-in-law,
All grenadier fixings are either a Torx or 19mm bolt so that you would only ever need 2 tools

Yeah - simplifies repair cost, - hence in Germany also considered in insurance premium..
For Ineos cost of supply, less warehouse cost, - fewer spare parts, minimising logistics.
Someone used indeed cerebral capability..

Look at the opposite.. there is a car called Renault Modus. (I think that is the one.. ) changing a headlight need the entire front and bumpers removed.
Plastic clips and other shite break need replace.. parts of it fall in less / not accessible areas and make noise somewhere in the vehicle sooner than later..
WTF.. perhaps cheap in production.. lesser skilled work force needed - but difficult to repair and huge logistic effort and operational cost increases.

bimmerteck · Feb 1, 2023

Krabby said:
Better/different aftermarket options will also be available by the time things cross the Atlantic.

Oh I’m sure it looks like the factory bit is a bit overbuilt imho, I also look forward to the L track solutions people and the aftermarket come up with for the load space. I went with Etrak in my D1 for similar utility and it’s been fantastic.

emax · Feb 3, 2023

klarie said:
Renault Modus. (I think that is the one.. ) changing a headlight need the entire front and bumpers removed.

Yes, THIS is a car made (or designed?) in France.

Many years ago I had an R6. I bought it for 250 DM. It was so cheap because the crank's shaft oil seal was broken and thus oil leaked onto the clutch.

So I thought (coming from an Opel Kadett) it's an afternoon to repair it. But I haden't realized that the R6 was a middle-motor concept and even worse it was french.

I had to dismount

the air filter
the carburettor
the intake manifold
the exhaust manifold
the exhaust Y-pipe
the starter
the entire steering linkage
the steering gear
the front break lines
the front brakes
the front suspension, transverse links, dampers
the starter
the gearbox
a ton of brackets, holders and metal sheets

and some other things that I don't remember. I needed a number of special tools that I didn't have and that would have cost more than the whole "car". So I made them myself, which took an extra day or two.

The whole mess ended up taking a week.

Believe me: never a French car again. Ever! And now maybe you understand why I'm so allergic to this "Made in France" bullshit.

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