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Will these wheels fit with no interference problems?

bought from discount tire - though vehicle hadn't arrived yet. So nothing inaccurate on their end. I picked wheels and tires based on sizes and what had read from others doing.
Same size as stock tires on the 17s - 265/70/17. Wheels: Method MR706s at 17x7.5 with 84.1mm bore, +50mm. tires are Firestone Winterforce LTs (as wanted the higher load index). I appreciate the perspectives as the cause sounds odd (not saying is inaccurate, but strange to me that 5mm further from the strut would be the culprit, and this costly.

Using the below site, the +50mm offset puts the new wheel 5mm further from the strut. Which I thought would be better than the opposite,


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This is the wheel size that Method recommends on their site, I cant imagine it is the rim or the tire. It would be great if they would provide you some pictures of it rubbing or did something get kicked up into the wheel well and tear up the sensor and brake line.
 
Just got an email from my dealer warning about aftermarket wheels. I still question it. Very interested to see the outcome here.
 
I wonder if you add 10mm spacers on the method wheels you can alleviate this issue on your Grenny? Here is a photo of the front and rear when my wheel and tires were installed 200 miles ago.
 

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Simply that a customer added after market wheels that wore through some components. Same as what the op here said. I tried to send you a pic of the email in a DM but wouldn’t allow me to send it. My dealer has been pretty good on things so far so I don’t really want to cause any issues with posting it here.
 
Simply that a customer added after market wheels that wore through some components. Same as what the op here said. I tried to send you a pic of the email in a DM but wouldn’t allow me to send it. My dealer has been pretty good on things so far so I don’t really want to cause any issues with posting it here.
Got it. No worries. Hopefully this is an isolated incident. I’m heading back home and will check mine first thing!
 
Simply that a customer added after market wheels that wore through some components. Same as what the op here said. I tried to send you a pic of the email in a DM but wouldn’t allow me to send it. My dealer has been pretty good on things so far so I don’t really want to cause any issues with posting it here.
Interesting that the communication would flow this quick (inside the Ineos network - which I think in general is a good thing). Still seems strange as is an off-road vehicle and one of the early things many change are wheels/tires. And we know, from this forum, how many have already made changes with no issues. And, with the unique wheel set-up (6x130, +55mm) are so few available options that are exact matches in the US. AND, the dealer network doesn't have spares to even buy that are OEM (at least mine doesn't). I will do more follow-up on my end and appreciate the suggestions provided by several folks. Early teething problems which I hope will be resolved well - for me, but also for all of us who are excited to own and operate such a vehicle!
 
Interesting that the communication would flow this quick (inside the Ineos network - which I think in general is a good thing). Still seems strange as is an off-road vehicle and one of the early things many change are wheels/tires. And we know, from this forum, how many have already made changes with no issues. And, with the unique wheel set-up (6x130, +55mm) are so few available options that are exact matches in the US. AND, the dealer network doesn't have spares to even buy that are OEM (at least mine doesn't). I will do more follow-up on my end and appreciate the suggestions provided by several folks. Early teething problems which I hope will be resolved well - for me, but also for all of us who are excited to own and operate such a vehicle!
Thank you….for bringing this to all of our attention. We to hope this gets resolved for you and every other owner!
 
Interesting that the communication would flow this quick (inside the Ineos network - which I think in general is a good thing). Still seems strange as is an off-road vehicle and one of the early things many change are wheels/tires. And we know, from this forum, how many have already made changes with no issues. And, with the unique wheel set-up (6x130, +55mm) are so few available options that are exact matches in the US. AND, the dealer network doesn't have spares to even buy that are OEM (at least mine doesn't). I will do more follow-up on my end and appreciate the suggestions provided by several folks. Early teething problems which I hope will be resolved well - for me, but also for all of us who are excited to own and operate such a vehicle!


I am not sold that it was the wheel/tire combo that did it unless you received different wheels then you have listed. If you went to a more positive offset that brought the wheel in towards the centerline of the vehicle it would potentially make sense but widening the stance by 5mm and same size tires just doesn’t seem like it would be the issue.
 
I am not sold that it was the wheel/tire combo that did it unless you received different wheels then you have listed. If you went to a more positive offset that brought the wheel in towards the centerline of the vehicle it would potentially make sense but widening the stance by 5mm and same size tires just doesn’t seem like it would be the issue.
I agree. but truck is at the dealer 60 miles away. When they get the replacement parts and I can go down with the oem wheels, I can then visually double-check the Method MR706s on the vehicle were as I bought (e.g. 17x7.5, 84.1mm, +50mm) and I know the Firestone tires are same size as OEM (though different manufacturer). Either way it has happened. I don't understand why. But working with what am being told right now.

Only picture i have of it where show tires/wheels - can't see much from angle and lighting)
 

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Hold up everyone. I just spoke with my service advisor and there was a bulletin that came out prior to these vehicles being shipped to the dealer. Apparently there was ann issues with the brake line and the speed sensors that were supposed to be fixed at port. I would check with your dealer about this and I doubt it’s coming from the wheels that you installed. This is a known issue that the manufacturer knew about and tried to rectify prior to delivery.
 
Hold up everyone. I just spoke with my service advisor and there was a bulletin that came out prior to these vehicles being shipped to the dealer. Apparently there was ann issues with the brake line and the speed sensors that were supposed to be fixed at port. I would check with your dealer about this and I doubt it’s coming from the wheels that you installed. This is a known issue that the manufacturer knew about and tried to rectify prior to delivery.
Texas, do you think you could get a bulletin number or date or something to reference? This would be pretty darn key for me. thanks.
 
Texas, do you think you could get a bulletin number or date or something to reference? This would be pretty darn key for me. thanks.
I’m traveling back home today, but I will try. I did call Sewell Ineos in Plano, Texas, where I purchased my vehicle and spoke with their service rep and he told me this about 15 minutes ago. You may want to give them a shout as well.
 
Dealers being dealers.... except for some very rare cases, I've almost never seen a dealer service department (or sales) understand the aftermarket world, and subsequently immediately blame the altered parts for anything.

The +50 offset is further away from the brakes, not closer than stock. But with that said, offset is t everything, and a difference in offset can't be a sole explanation for anything here (wheel width, spoke shape, barrel clearance, etc)

What part of the wheel came in contact with what part the brakes? Specifically.

The only thing I could think of is if the wheel barrel to caliper clearance is tight, the wheel weights could have made contact, but this would be immediately noticable and can be corrected by moving the weights laterally on the barrel slightly
 
Dealers being dealers.... except for some very rare cases, I've almost never seen a dealer service department (or sales) understand the aftermarket world, and subsequently immediately blame the altered parts for anything.

The +50 offset is further away from the brakes, not closer than stock. But with that said, offset is t everything, and a difference in offset can't be a sole explanation for anything here (wheel width, spoke shape, barrel clearance, etc)

What part of the wheel came in contact with what part the brakes? Specifically.

The only thing I could think of is if the wheel barrel to caliper clearance is tight, the wheel weights could have made contact, but this would be immediately noticable and can be corrected by moving the weights laterally on the barrel slightly
Best explanation so far, did not think about the wheel weights! Imagine that carnage, yikes!
 
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