Will Ineos continue producing the Jimny?

According to this article, there is a possibility that INEOS will continue to produce the Jimny even after it ceases production in Europe in summer 2024.

Ineos plant weitere Offroad-Baureihen: Kommt die Rettung für Jimny-Fans von Ineos?

Der Geländewagenhersteller Ineos will das Angebot um zusätzliche Modelle erweitern. Neben einem großen Luxus-SUV soll ein kompakter Offroader kommen. Der könnte in die Lücke stoßen, die der Suzuki Jimny hinterlässt.

www.auto-motor-und-sport.de

See attached PDF for English Version (allthough file name is still German ...) .


PS: If someone can tell me why the format of this posting is so different from the other ones, please let me know.

 

[Logsplitter]

According to this article, there is a possibility that INEOS will continue to produce the Jimny even after it ceases production in Europe in summer 2024.

Ineos plant weitere Offroad-Baureihen: Kommt die Rettung für Jimny-Fans von Ineos?

Der Geländewagenhersteller Ineos will das Angebot um zusätzliche Modelle erweitern. Neben einem großen Luxus-SUV soll ein kompakter Offroader kommen. Der könnte in die Lücke stoßen, die der Suzuki Jimny hinterlässt.

www.auto-motor-und-sport.de

PS: If someone can tell me why the format of this posting is so different from the other ones, please let me know.

I’m struggling with translating it into English unfortunately

 

[emax]

I’m struggling with translating it into English unfortunately

I've made an English PDF for all non-Germans, see first posting.

 

[Jean Mercier]

In my opinion this is pure speculation of a journalist. I think Suzuki will continue to produce it, but will not import it to the EU anymore due to the stringent anti-emission norms for big car builders.
What he hopes is that Ineos will produce a very small version of the Grenadier.

 

[emax]

In my opinion this is pure speculation

Maybe you're right.

But it's a nice speculation.

And who knows ...

 

[Jeremy996]

Ineos Automotive will be running into issues with fleet mileage and emissions in many jurisdictions that the EV version of the Fusilier would have addressed.

Suzuki pulled the passenger car version of the new Jiminy as it was harming their fleet average emissions and there is a small concession for the van version. Making an ICE Jiminy or Jiminy substitute will do nothing for IA's emissions issues in the UK or EU and not much in the USA either.

Shame, as I liked the new Jimny, although I don't fit in the van version, as the bulkhead reduces the seat travel.

 

[emax]

My information is that INEOS falls under a regulation for small manufacturers with low productions numbers.

But I have no source as this is just hearsay.

 

[klarie]

My information is that INEOS falls under a regulation for small manufacturers with low productions numbers.

But I have no source as this is just hearsay.

For now this exception is valid but Ineos ambitions go beyond staying a niche player. True off-road requirements do simply not operate with existing limitations of electric drivetrain. Perhaps there is a solution in the middle with a hybrid system that is affordable. Perhaps far east made. There were intentions to have a smaller off-roader since quite a while at Ineos. If there is market demand..

 

[Jeremy996]

My information is that INEOS falls under a regulation for small manufacturers with low productions numbers.

All true, but it will stifle the ambition stated in the recent past. There was an article in one of the car magazines that detailed the regulations and explaned why IA had to sell some many "commercial" vehicles in the UK. Each jurisdiction has slightly different rules.

This refers, but Autocar have either taken down the article or stuck it behind their paywall; https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/co2-emissions.12279064/#post-1331978246

 

[Lollo050968]

My information is that INEOS falls under a regulation for small manufacturers with low productions numbers.

But I have no source as this is just hearsay.

The information was in the german part of the forum.

Local Area Thread - Zulassungszahlen Deutschland

Zubverlässig ist er ja irgendwie …d.h. er fährt …funktioniert zwar immer irgendwas nicht oder schlecht aber die totalausfälle waren bisher bei mir an einer Hand abzählbar bei 24.000 km . Gut bei anderen Autos gab es bei 200.000 km und mehr keinen Totalausfall aber die hatten auch keine „toot“...

www.theineosforum.com

 

[Tazzieman]

It'd be called the Jimmy

 

[emax]

This refers, but Autocar have either taken down the article or stuck it behind their paywall

No, it is still there. Red is false but green is sadly right.

However: Many URLS in this forum were crippled after a software update a long time ago.

Compare both links: The first one is the one you pointed to, it yields a 404 error. The second one is the correct one and shows the page. I had to format it as CODE otherwise the 'smart' software algorithm would reformat it as links (and garble it again).

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/business-dealership%2C-sales-and-marketing/why-van-versions-ineos-grenadier-help-co2-rules%20t=_blank
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/business-dealership,-sales-and-marketing/why-van-versions-ineos-grenadier-help-co2-rules

It is however now paywalled. But you can at least read the teaser.

Why van versions of the Ineos Grenadier help with CO2 rules | Autocar

By offering a commercial variant from the off, Ineos has boxed clever with EU and UK emissions regs

www.autocar.co.uk

 

[255/85]

It'd be called the Jimmy

Sir Jimny?

 

[Tazzieman]

Sir Jimny?

No, I think the name would have to reflect the boyish , cheeky Jim
Sir anything is only meaningful if you live in the UK.

 

[255/85]

No, I think the name would have to reflect the boyish , cheeky Jim
Sir anything is only meaningful if you live in the UK.

Twenty-somethings call me "sir" all the time. Annoying as hell.

 

[Tazzieman]

Twenty-somethings call me "sir" all the time. Annoying as hell.

That's a uniquely American thing!

 

[landmannnn]

Actually British English (including Aus) is fairly unusual in that when you speak to a stranger you would not use an honorific term.
In French for example you would normally address a stranger as Monsieur or Madame, Japanese as you would expect has a whole vocabulary for addressing people formally.

 

[Tazzieman]

Actually British English (including Aus) is fairly unusual in that when you speak to a stranger you would not use an honorific term.
In French for example you would normally address a stranger as Monsieur or Madame, Japanese as you would expect has a whole vocabulary for addressing people formally.

"The cultural differences are vast...and I don't think it would take very much time for him really to become Americanised."

View: https://youtu.be/eSpWpPJbRy4?si=4AZhoxihP9mLrAGr

 

[255/85]

Actually British English (including Aus) is fairly unusual in that when you speak to a stranger you would not use an honorific term.
In French for example you would normally address a stranger as Monsieur or Madame, Japanese as you would expect has a whole vocabulary for addressing people formally.

I was taught to use an honorific in all "romance" languages. French, Italian, Spanish, etc. Sure beats "hey dude".

 

[lightning]

The Jimny is too small to be a serious contender. The Five door version would be better if it was available in Europe, but it isn't.