What is a Grenadier?

[TNT647]

I had a friend ask me what was my new auto…and to be candid, I don’t know if it’s British, French, or Bavarian? What’s the answer?, EU?

 

[Krabby]

I had a friend ask me what was my new auto…and to be candid, I don’t know if it’s British, French, or Bavarian? What’s the answer?, EU?

Tough question - British-owned company, engineered in Austria and Germany, built in France with legitimately global suppliers.

I haven't been asked this yet (since I have yet to get my truck) but this could be a very interesting thread.

 

[TNT647]

Tough question - British-owned company, engineered in Austria and Germany, built in France with legitimately global suppliers.

I haven't been asked this yet (since I have yet to get my truck) but this could be a very interesting thread.

See my dilemma?

 

[Eric]

Tough question - British-owned company, engineered in Austria and Germany, built in France with legitimately global suppliers.

I haven't been asked this yet (since I have yet to get my truck) but this could be a very interesting thread.

All you can say is it was conceived in a pub called the Grenadier, in Belgravia London

 

[anand]

Our description was always that it is a multi-national European vehicle from a British company, and like @Krabby said, British/Austrian/German/French.

I guess the bottom line is that Ineos is a British company; they just happen to be very open about the design and engineering process, so we know what the background is.

Stellantis is technically a Dutch company made up of a merger between an Italian/American company and a French company that builds vehicles in globally. Taking the RAM as an example here, it is built in Mexico.... But when people ask what a Ram truck is, it is simply American.

 

[TNT647]

Our description was always that it is a multi-national European vehicle from a British company, and like @Krabby said, British/Austrian/German/French.

I guess the bottom line is that Ineos is a British company; they just happen to be very open about the design and engineering process, so we know what the background is.

Stellantis is technically a Dutch company made up of a merger between an Italian/American company and a French company that builds vehicles in globally. Taking the RAM as an example here, it is built in Mexico.... But when people ask what a Ram truck is, it is simply American.

Sounds complicated. I’m just appreciating your effort.

 

[Tazzieman]

What's a Volvo , Jaguar etc.
The days of vehicles being conceived, designed and built in one country using components constructed and fashioned by local oompah loompahs are long over

 

[[ Adam ]]

Tough question - British-owned company, engineered in Austria and Germany, built in France with legitimately global suppliers.

I haven't been asked this yet (since I have yet to get my truck) but this could be a very interesting thread.

The majority of the parts are actually German, then UK, then French.

Engine and Trans are German.

 

[TNT647]

What's a Volvo , Jaguar etc.
The days of vehicles being conceived, designed and built in one country using components constructed and fashioned by local oompah loompahs are long over

not to be flippant, but Volvos are considered Swedish and and Jaguars are considered British...

 

[[ Adam ]]

not to be flippant, but Volvos are considered Swedish and and Jaguars are considered British...

Yeah, and Nissan Frontiers manufactured in the US are Japanese.

 

[Tazzieman]

not to be flippant, but Volvos are considered Swedish and and Jaguars are considered British...

My wife's Volvo was built in China and people are quick to tell us this fact.
Even though it's irrelevant. 2 years with it and not a single issue.
Jaguars British? Not in my mind.

 

[TNT647]

My wife's Volvo was built in China and people are quick to tell us this fact.
Even though it's irrelevant. 2 years with it and not a single issue.
Jaguars British? Not in my mind.

I guess Nissan are US and Volvos are Chinese and Jessie Smollet is they...i loose. Someone save me!

 

[FlyersFan76]

I guess Nissan are US and Volvos are Chinese and Jessie Smollet is they...i loose. Someone save me!

French Actor

 

[Jean Mercier]

What's a Volvo , Jaguar etc.
The days of vehicles being conceived, designed and built in one country using components constructed and fashioned by local oompah loompahs are long over

Yes Volvo was Swedish and is Chinese now, and one of the biggest plants of Volvo is in Ghent, Belgium at less than 4km from where I was raised (Oostakker)! I think it was even the biggest Volvo plant of the world during some years.

 

[Jean Mercier]

French Actor

Jean-Claude Van Damme is definitely Belgian

 

[Coullabus]

What's a Volvo , Jaguar etc.
The days of vehicles being conceived, designed and built in one country using components constructed and fashioned by local oompah loompahs are long over

Volvo = Chinese owned, but accepted as Swedish.

Jaguar = Indian owned, but accepted as British.

Ineos = British owned, and is accepted as British?

 

[Tazzieman]

Jean-Claude Van Damme is definitely Belgian

And Hercule Poirot is Belgian , but invented for sociopolitical reasons by a wealthy Englishwoman (who never owned a football team in England or any other country).
As for Tintin, he drove cars from several countries. But I digress...

 

[Tom109]

Having always wanted a Citroen DS Safari, I say my Gren is French-built, yet conceived in the Grenadier Pub.

I didn’t know the RAM trucks were Mexican (puts that in back pocket).

 

[terdrocket]

My 2015 Volvo XC70 was a Ford designed, Swedish built, Chinese owned car.
It had the Ford 3.0 I-6 turbo, Chinese redesigned digital dash and the most comfortable swedish seats ever made.

 

[Krabby]

It’s weird, I think I sometimes associate vehicles with their legacy identity. That is, despite being owned by an Indian corporation, I still think of JLR as British. Oddly though, I don’t think of Mini as being British anymore. Regardless of where they’re made I always consider Toyota, Honda, Nissan, etc as Japanese companies and Audi, BMW, VW, and MB as German. I know lots of US big three vehicles aren’t made here (many in CA and MX) but GM & Ford are American in my mind. Chrysler/Dodge and the Stellantis mess - I just don’t know what to make of that.

Which leads back to the OP - Le Germish?